Lord Nev

OUT: Jetta IN: Hibberd Bit worried about changing the dynamic in the back 6, but think that change seems likely.

Replacing 4 veterans, 2 of which are in our 22 to this point, 2 which will likely be in next week, with 4 kids to save money so we can pay 2 stars is not a great suggestion.

I'm not the one making suggestions mate.

If we lost all of Jones, Jetta, Hibberd and Melksham and replaced them with cheap youngsters I don't think we're going anywhere mate. I also don't think TMac and Gus leaving is realistic. Also not sure how you justify saying "Not sure most other club's players like the idea of a new player coming for money and affecting their salaries" but then talk about getting rid of loyal veterans to save money so we can pay 2 stars. Doesn't stack up IMO.

Not how it works mate. Clubs work a fair way out with their key targets, they don't just randomly pop up in trade week and go 'oh hey we wanna trade for Petracca...'

More just pointing out this talk of Collingwood's cap being far tighter than ours is quite likely not very accurate. Not sure how you're tearing up Melksham's contract early? And wouldn't think any of Jones, Jetta and Hibberd are on huge contracts that will gift us massive salary cap space. Hard to know for sure though. Obviously hope both Clarry and Trac stay, but just think it's a bit naive for people to instantly write this off.

Yep, there's no way a club like Collingwood just messed things up for no reason last year. They're up to something.

Mate, former players are always the best sources of club goss, and Collingwood being into Petracca isn't a new bit of news, the rumour has been around since 2019 or so. Not saying Trac is gone, not guaranteeing the Pies will go hard after him, but write this stuff off at your own peril.

We also paid a fortune to Gus and TMac, have Gawn, Lever and May on decent coin, and Oliver to re-sign this year... Collingwood aren't dumb operators. They're the biggest team in the league, if anyone thinks they were just 'dumb' last year then I don't think they understand that club. I would be wary.

Would it make a difference if he was on the other side....

He's also rated 'elite' for defensive one on ones, one percenters and disposal efficiency, as well as 'above average' for spoils and contested marks. Interesting stats also. Also, according to the AFL website, he's gained 31 metres this year. (Not that that's anything to write home about of course).

Sure, and I'm not advocating for 4 days before, just saying that it seems a missed opportunity by the AFL to not go back to the Thursday night teams, especially given how well they usually dominate the news cycle. Have a heard a stack of supporters comment about this now.

It's generally the biggest talking point week to week for supporters. For an AFL that has been masterful at dominating the media landscape it feels like a misstep to have done this. Disagree it makes no difference to supporters, it pretty obviously does, I mean we're 9 pages deep here just on one game, and that's without having the actual teams.

Judging by the OP, we're talking favourite players we've watched play as opposed to best players throughout our history, so with that in mind... 1. Matty Whelan - Toughest footballer I've seen. Would destroy opposition players, but without trying to be a 'tough guy' or having over the top bravado. Also underrated for his disposal IMO. 2. Jeff Farmer - Just seemed to have a habit of putting together incredible bursts of footy that would get Dees fans out of their seats. 3. Liam Jurrah - Could do anything on the footy field, just pure footy talent. 4. Kozzy - See combined descriptions of 1 and 2. 5. Green - Might not be the 'coolest' option, but his beautiful kick combined with the way he would throw himself into marking contests was a highlight to watch, and he's probably gone under the radar in a way with his efforts for us.

Agree the structure is overall looking better, disagree that Gus deserves the credit for that.

Fair enough mate. I agree he's learning a new role, I guess we just differ on our perception. Understand what you're saying about roles, I personally just think Gus is a far better player than what he's shown so far this year and he deserves as much heat as anyone else would get in that situation. Again, no coaches votes for McIntosh last week so I don't agree he will feature highly in their BnF votes in that ones.

So you're happy with us having a highly paid former pick 3 playing as a defensive winger, who kicks it badly, doesn't tackle much or apply pressure, and plays 70% game time; because a different player at a different club did well in their BnF last year?... Find it strange how quickly people look to make excuses for Gus. He's under performing. Simple as that. No pressure, poor delivery, but apparently he's going better than anyone thinks because he's, what, filling space? Come on. 2 tackles and 10 pressure acts a game for a former pick 3 'defensive winger'. Who says Dees fans accept mediocrity hey... PS - McIntosh didn't get any coaches votes, so not totally sold on your 'high B&F votes' theory.

So, in this apparent role of 'defensive winger' where he's rated so far as below average for pressure acts, tackles and one percenters, he's 'playing it well'? Can't say I agree mate. But at least he's going at 50% by foot hey.

Yeah it's a tricky one. I guess it will come down to if the coaches are happy with him doing a minimal role or if they think they can make him the player he seemed like he could be a few years ago.

Jake Melksham was impressive for Casey, certainly knocking on the door for selection at Melbourne after imposing himself on the game and kicking two goals. “Melky was strong in the contest,” Corrigan said. “His craft around the ball was really good and he was able to hit the scoreboard with a couple of goals - he certainly put his hand up (for selection).” VFL: Casey wins a close one over the Kangaroos

Pathetic. Here you go: https://www.magshop.com.au/Products/NIW/new-idea-magazine-subscription?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIz7HM6YLU7wIVCZ1LBR02SgpzEAAYASAAEgJ17fD_BwE

Yeah. None of your business. Googling gossip articles by trashy news sources doesn't exactly help your point here. Billy doesn't own Nicky. No one has to keep him 'in the loop' about what his ex is up to. You're allowed to do whatever you like, but if you choose to spend your time speculating on the personal relationships of public people then it says more about you than them though.

Rubbish post. Not that it should be your business, but they were well and truly separated before anything developed between Garry and Nicky. Might be hard for you to understand, but she is not "me missus", she is a person in her own right with her own free will. Garry has gone through his own mental health battles and been pretty open about it all, especially given he's a pretty private person generally. He's also lost one of his best mates to this fight. Who are you to jump on the internet and start making personal judgments about people, none of whom you know, while trying to talk up the mental health cause.