Kent

8 hours ago, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

I suspect Heritage Overlay would prevent its development as real estate.

 

What bloody heritage

place is bog ordinary

28 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

And Gus...

EAsy to see where some of the problem lies> Brayshaw is not a happy chappy at the demons

Thanks Rusty really good stats analysis

Can you do Viney??

51 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Thanks, although I note that nothing provided shows that Misson was "practically demoted". Changes were made, improvements have been sought, but it does not appear to be correct to say, from the information available, that Misson was in any way "demoted".

and whats improved since??

16 minutes ago, poita said:

If we are that keen on him, I cannot comprehend why we didn't make a serious play for Langdon as part of the Hogan deal last year. Now we have zero bargaining power and will end up paying overs to bring him in this year. 

Yep Poita a very good poita

Some on here say our recruiting has been marvelous

In my opinion it has contributed largely to why we are where we are and it has left huge holes in the team  talent pool.

I really think our recruiting has been poor for a number of years and hopefully the current review of football operations will address this.

But I doubt it as the club appears to be in denial.

Can somebody please tell me exactly what Todd Vineys' job is?? I have asked many times. Does any body know what he is accountable for?

12 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

ANB interested in a flight home..?

 

 

 

Please make it happen!

8 hours ago, samcantstandya said:

Because we are not professional. Jones has a high opinion of himself bit since that very first game this yr agst Port he has been fumble and bomb it long type player. Def shouldn't be captain in 2020.

Yes remember we had a number of these types, Maloney comes to mind, forced the club to play a poor brand of footy

Agree club must make that call  and season end

13 hours ago, Redleg said:

All premature at this stage as Gus might be very happy at Dees.

Yes he looks reeeaaaaalllllyyyyyy happy doesnt he?

11 hours ago, stranga said:

So True. Freo president said they pulled the trigger because they didn't want to " tread water" for another 12 months. Yet here we are timidly putting contracts and $ ahead of success and a strong culture. 

That's the melbourne way

Its why we have never ever moved on over 55 years run by scs for scs

6 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

I think the thread should be titled "the business case for sacking Goodwin". That's what it's about.

As it should be!

1 hour ago, old dee said:

I don't think there is a snowflake in hell chance he will be sacked this year Macca. The cost would be too high. The only possible way he would leave is if the crowd sacked their coach and wanted him to coach them in 2020. What are the chances of that happening? Next to none I would think.

Just insane for the board to give him 3 years

The board should be ashamed

38 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Fixed for you @Kent

As the "great man" Gary Lyon would say - "it's about the body of work".

Goodwin, as you well know took a team to a prelim, less than a year ago, and there has been a range of extenuating factors as you also know.

Ross, Bolton, Richardson - nope.

Not fixed Onion

How this board gave him 3 year extension is beyond belief 

But there you go others think differently. I would say his performance in 2018 we anything to write home about.

How lucky is Goodwin

Gee  he must be praying to the Gods now The worst performing Coach is still standing

34 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

he played down back and organised our defence

he played in the vfl and organised the midfield

he played up forward and organised our forward set-up

we'll miss him as he's one of very few 'football brains' that we have on our side

yes to all of that

Is there any way we could get King without using our first round pick?

We don't seem to have much currency so the recruiting team need to be bold this year.

We need something special to happen.

We also have a raft of delistings required  so again the recruiting team need to make hard decisions and trade hard.

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

I'll bet we're close to last for both inaccuracy for and accuracy against. Poor tired legs. ?

I bet we are last for 1 percenters

4 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Needs to work on his goal kicking from the 40 metre plus range if he's to make it as a forward.

Can certainly take a contested mark though which is a great sign.

He should fit right in at the DEES then.

What can we get for Wiederman from the pies?

Pick 9  to a cameo forward who has played 5 or 6 reasonable games over 3 years 

I think we over invested.

16 minutes ago, RedLegs23 said:

Just reported on SEN - Brad Hill doesn’t want to play for the Dees.

Ed Langdon in the box seat to land with us.

 

 

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That will save us  900 grand

12 hours ago, picket fence said:

Arrogance!

11 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Despite all the game plan tinkering which Goodwin has admitted to as a failure, I still think the lack of preseason to a lot of players is still the major factor. 

Goodwin stated on radio that he had some severe doubts about the prospect of the season as early as the summer and by round 3 those doubts were full blown alarms. Goodwin knows his footy and he knows exactly how hard a playing group has to work and he knew we were miles behind the pack.

As supporters, we’ll be acutely aware of how well we’re going to fare by February when we start seeing intraclub matches and our first JLT. We won’t have to wait for round 1. We should, in theory, witness a massive up swing in two way running, spreading from the contest, spread on transition, defensive efforts, skills execution and more.

Faith and hope is all that sustains this club

13 hours ago, Soidee said:

Fix the injured players or move them on!  The club can not afford to carry players who are injury prone.  Some of our list have played little or no football for 18 months.  

This list has more than a handful of players that are not AFL standard, move them on.  

Change the Captain to Gawn it’s a no brainer.

Recruit speed and a decent KPP for FF.

send the complete list to resilient training

Bring in support for Goodwin

change the game plan.

And its taken a season from hell to make this call

The horse bolted after the Prelim final.

I don't think Goodwin can change enough but some on here do 

I guess we will see next season because this club is not tough enough.

How depressing it all is.

8 minutes ago, ignition. said:

Throughout the season many of us have asked where has it gone so wrong? Who is and should be held accountable? We've pointed the finger at the coach, assistant coaches, captains, and players alike. One thing is for sure, we cannot have a repeat next year or we'll be soon seeing an exodus of quality talent and yet another rebuild.

I'll admit I've requested certain heads to roll, but in fairness I've based this on only my observations and theories (like many of us).

 

What I do request from the board is a thorough third-party and unbiased club-wide review.

As there is clearly something or multiple things wrong, they need to be fixed and amended immediately. I truly don't think we can point the finger at "lazy" "unskilled" players, as they showed us what they were capable of one season prior. Likewise, the "injury" excuse is just that, an excuse. These are the things that come to mind:

- The new CEO and how he works needs to be evaluated.

- The coach, his game plan, adaptability on match day, and his weekly roster (e.g. are there too many meetings and not enough skill sessions, e.g. B.Bolton) needs to be evaluated.

- The assistant coaches, are they leaders, are they knowledgeable, do they fill players with confidence, are they approachable, are they good communicators or simply ex-players etc.?

- List management, many of us have criticized Josh Mahoney's ability to negotiate at the trade table. Furthermore, is there friction from him regarding the rejection of Jackson's CEO succession plan?

- The captains, are they actually leading on the field. Are they constantly moving and placing their troops in the right positions around the field, or are they just trying to lead by example (playing)?

- The players, are there any particular one generating a toxicity and disdain towards others within the group?

- Are there any tensions between sectors and groups above. Why?

 

With that said, I think the players at least for now should be spared (unless if there is a bully). I hope each player gets the opportunity to privately and confidently inform a third-party as to what they think is wrong because I guarantee you the answer lies within the opinions of the collective playing group.

 

Once the pain points are identified, the best way to get back on track is to amend relationships over the preseason. If we fix what's wrong between the player's ears, other things such as skill and ability to execute will follow. The worst thing that comes to mind is yet another push for a special forces training camp. Instead, do something like a 9-day trek along the Kokoda track, with a skills session each evening in the rural villages along the way. Hawthorn have done it multiple times, one of which at the end of 2011 prior to their 4 consecutive grand final appearances. I also did it when I was 21 and it was one of the best experiences of my life. I couldn't think of any better relationship building excise.

 

 

Watch out for falling Bricks

22 minutes ago, Big Carl said:

Comical

Yep ANB can always be relied upon. Oliver knows its no use kicking the ball to ANB What a wastral.

.Cue the Benny Hill music>

9 minutes ago, Skin Deeamond said:

Viney has become an overrated spud. Trade him out. Jones has had it. Force him to stand down as captain. Stop listening to Viney’s dad.

Again I ask

What is Todd Vineys' Job????

GET a South Australian removalist truck next week and take the whole lot back to Adelaide including SA players

They can renew aquaintences with Jimmy Toumpas