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One would have to establish it being the best of the 6 flags In the glory years then compare with the single ones in 1900 1926 and 1948 and also the three peat in 1939,40 and 41. There wasn't much difference in the1955 56 57 59 and 60 teams and 64 was an end of successful era one that is a bonus for us. If a reunion was not achieved last year of the 1960 flag then I would encourage it to be held during this season.

Sorry DD You have picked out all Kossies little faults as a 19 yo player with years ahead of an exciting future. And at the same time are ignoring the repeated weaknesses with ANB explaining he is played out of position . I am certain there are Many more Dees fans like me who are tired of ANB's continual skill errors and unfulfilled potential. Those that criticised Jack Watts amaze me when ANB seems to be just put up with and tolerated. As you say it's all about expectations and Jack and you now with Kossie make first rounders free game Because of this. When it's all said and done after you join a Club your Draft pick no. Is irrelevant as to your ability. You may earn more of course snd that's what it's you so you unfairly criticise these early draftees for IMO.

He will be like Trac if he can play like last Friday, free from criticism and an A grader leading this Club. Has enormous leadership potential. Really don't know why Jake, Maysie Trac Gus Langers and Clarry aren't in the leadership group to keep them all together . They deserve it. Well done Jake onwards and upwards.

Boy Rufus you haven't even started Pouring into the glass yet. mite no good we are-a basket case IMO we will be ahead of all those Clubs you mentioned this year and will a flag before them! Oh and win the hot dog eating contest that another poster referred to!!!

To mobile and flexible for Weid type. Runs freer and is far more versatile.

How have Carlton gone past us on the field Rufus. Last time I looked we finished 9 th and they were 11 th and we won 2 more games and beat them in2020. Anyong that says we didn't look aggressive and determined on Friday hasn't played sport at any level!!! Let alone top level. Saints are ahead as last year made finals and got a Win! Who knows this year Wrll see soon at Marvel I Round2 !

Not really Would need to win a Final or two I would think.

Thanks IHW But my opinion is that there are a lot of positive changes with recruiting development andCoaching positions. There is no doubt that Goody will not survive with all this happening if we only end up 8-10th. Also Bartlett has him in his sights with the 4 year plan. Not to make the Finals this year with the improvements I have outlined will lead to Ooze replacing him. I am wondering even now how he is tracking or is he just wAiting for selection and game day for nothing to change except our game plan which isn't a bad start really. I am confident this won't happen By the way.

Yes Kossie needs a finishing course and that's Choco's job. Don't really see ANB as a mid he has ordinary skills hand and foot is not super strong and finishes his goal snap shots poorer Than all of our players. Hunt I jus think is jack of all trades and master of none so we keep him for depth and may be run off the backline today but goal sneaking at HF tomorrow !!

That maybe short naming or editing??

RU counting 2017 ? Not below average What is below our average? And each year deserves to be assessed on its own. Blind Harry the Miner can see our list and depth is 25% better and coaching at least that again. Also our game plan looked credible and much faster on Friday. Oh sorry you can't See this development Bandi let's just wait and see then.

We don't need any more small forwards as most are coming up roses or at least showing form or potential. Yes his Versatility and size are mouth watering and Tmac might be getting nervous if he can really play on a wing ! Even Majak can't do that I don't think!

There is also a very great quality that we must define ourselves and it's DIGNITY. We no longer need to grab every spare $500k with the Bentleigh Club to thank. In any case it can be switched without affecting our match and TV etc can be sorted. It won't happen a great deal as the 50% cap will be under pressure now as other Clubs seek riches out if the Covid pie. AFL are pressuring Govt for greater flexibility and before Anzac Eve let's hope there is a change under the Covid Safe Plans available.

What after the game on Friday ? was on the website about 2 hours after I reckon might have been a bit quicker.

He has played for Peel Thunder in the WAFL for about 8 games or more!

It is on our website !! Don't you guys look at the website?

Fair enough Bing forgot about Aarts Yes he played well but Riv just seemed out of sorts most unlike him. I like him and reckon he will come back vs Doggies on Monday. I also reckon that that's why we should have a small back pocket style player to go with smaller faster opponents. I have been championing Locky but now have a feeling Bowey is the one after Friday's B game. Players like Daniels Tippy etc cause us trouble because of our bad match ups. Jets is no longer fast enough fir these pact players I really don't know heather Riv is fast enough and agile for them either. Goody and Coaches have to look at This option for our defence I feel for every base to be covered. Thanks for your post Bing I am sure Riv will be fine he is a star.

Wrong DD give Kossie a fair go He is a kid since when do you expect exact performances from Ist Rounders that always match their draft no? Some are slower than others mids are quick to perform KP players slower ( SamW) rucks even slower ( Gawny) and a comparison with many other small forwards is relevant. if you want to be fairer you could be super critical on the same Scale with ANB or Hunty.!!! Kossie is only 19 and has elite talent and once he gets back into the swing will gain confidence with our Coaches assisting all along the way. He has a great base to build from and will pay us off many times over as Stretch says. Your one goal a game is not a given but as long as he plays his role and creates pressure and chaos with the defenders we will prosper. A goal a game will be achieved and more if there is no pressure on him playing his role in due course.

Essendon should have thought more when they championed their Marvel ( or whatever it was named in 2001 or thereabouts) Stadium as their base home venue. If every game is altered because it may sell out and some people miss out then games will be on a merry go round fir these reasons as well as the potential of Covid to upset the Fixture. FWIW the AFL have said they want the first 6 rounds Of the fixture to remain unchanged ( Of course they say and do what they want When they want ) but I have a feeling this will create a rod for their own back if they compound for this reason alone. There could be a whole new fixture looked at when really I feel it will only result in the 50% Figure at Marvel Mars and smaller venues ( if relevant) in other States being lifted during the early rounds or ASAP. MFC should register their position saying that their game should not be moved as a precedent for any reason given by EFC.

He didn't play a horrible game or make multiple errors and I don't think his opponent was BOG but just didn't seem to get involved. He may be one of those players that lifts for the real thing to and gets absolutely motivated. Reckon he will lift for a much more Public game and show his class as usual. Maybe give him Wallis to mind as he almost beat us Solo in the forward line in 2020.

Sorry but the AFL game opens the season on 18th on Ch 7 with regular Clubs Tigers and Blues!!!

OD it means FYI that your comment that you didn't go to the footy last year was NO NEWS For or to anyone as it was Locked Out to All Victorians all season. IE it was "meaningless news " even worse than fake news!!! Any way if you don't understand this comment then let's move on as you altered my comment completely.

We've put up with ANB and of late Fritta with goal kicking accuracy issues. why pick on Kossie in his first developmental year.

Don't disagree with Hibbo good last season Jonesy half and half but pretty good on Friday. Jets has slowed a bit was ok on Friday. It's AVB and Melksham. When was their last recognised form?? Not last year or in 2019 I don't reckon. Basically 2018 and weren't there on Friday and have been in rehab most of pre season so match fitness AND form a worry. It's a different story with Jack V and Gus as they are tracking for around 1. Even then I am not sure we should risk both vs Freo with true young on ballers! Let's trust Sparrow and Jordon as slightly older recruits if they both go ok vs Bullies on Monday. They deserve their opportunity especially Jimmy Jordon and we do know what Tom gives honestly and with heart. You seem to not recognise the draftees from 2019 and 2020 as chances to be: selected. Kossie won't make it I assume on form and little bit of match fitness But on last year Jacko and Riv are certain selections with good form fitness and great opportunity after bulking up over summer. The 2020 draftees are your different kettle of fish. Did you see Bowey on Friday admittedly in the B Practice match Looked an AFL player with composure time and excellent disposal from BP and defence. Laurie was slick and sure in and under and also good use of the ball including a long goal. Skill level commented upon. Rosman did not stand out on the wing so did not really press his claims. Finally at FB Harry Petty was prob our best player with about 10 marks and 7 intercepts. His disposal was good and he looked ready to replace Tommo IMO at FB or CHB with Maysie the other and allowing Jake to also show his best form intercepting On numerous occasions Halting the Tigers forward Thrusts. So we have some youth ready others chafing at the bit and some will have to wait.Choco has torn up or burned these youngsters Birth certificates apparently !!! The improvement will come with speed and aggression in the game plan and youth can often provide that with no backward steps. Some of our 2018 heroes are not exactly racing to the finish line. There are some others also that can add to our list if they train and get the right development from our coaches. Let's all hope that any player earns their spot from training form and fitness Plus their ability whether it is past or future that excites the selectors and the balance is to give us the best chance of success from Round1.

Ditto repeato gracias Picketo!!!