Superunknown

Old jungle saying: Fires need oxygen to burn.

Gleeson, Niall and Bartel on The Age podcast saying Hogan for 4 or 5, and "he's not worth both" [presume they mean 4 and 5 rather than some combo of 4/5 and 9/10)]. It seems that Demonlanders are fairly unanimous that Hogan is worth 2 picks in top 10 and some media now clear he's worth 1. How do this seemingly knowledgeable trio seem poles apart from the combined intelligence of Demonland. EDIT: Part 2 sans Bartel - parenthesis mine. Niall: there's no way the Demons will let Hogan go for less than 2 x top (10, presumably) picks. He's a super talent. Etc etc. Strange move but they have Tmac and Weid. If Demons have May, they're in premiership contention. Still need an outside player who can spread (say hi to KK). Internal dev to outside: Hunt. Dom Tyson (on 500K?! or so):

Maybe he is just agonising over a very important decision

Magnanimous.

What a truly bizarre pre-pending to the "you are right"

Someone has flipped the switch to vaudeville now. Will he/what if he Shut the thread! He's off! No he's not! (Shut the thread!) Yes he is (ok you woz right, let's talk trade) No he's not! He sure is (Ethanthetradewhisperer or ETD can't remember which) - vaudeville mode - Bluey - no he's not! He was busy cutting up the rug and darting up in the party . AND MAX'S MUM IS AFTER Y'ALL! (Aeeeeeeek! Aye carumba) So where are we at this minute.

What did Max say at the BNF (about Demonland?)

Cheers - mine too. Sad times, brother, sad times.

Undecided about kollajizzknee but happy to be surprised if nothing else , epic mileage in fun times nicknames

Jeez why would you have DV8 on ignore you may not agree with him but his heart is in the right place unlike some others who are just downright needlessly nasty

Jeez there is some fair dinkum snark here. Not pleasant at all

Looking forward to 100+ pages of updates Across the trade threads to see me through sitting with the magpie supporting inlaws tomorrow

Haha but it's their spring sale Slung the link to wifey wink wink nudge nudge Xmas and my 40th doth approach

Most of the above excluding the coffee and music scene? Surf warmer in Perth?

Just be thankful his middle initial isn't K

Nay, sayeth I.

All I can hear is gongs and wa-taaaaaa and kung fu sound effects its all very distracting Bruce

Everyone's getting a bit narky eh./ Time for a stiff drink and a lay down. Especially all those public service slackers and Mad Men!

Including those working in public services, of course. My point, not clearly made, was that these factors are essentially fixed costs wheresoever he goes. 800k/year at Melbourne. 1.2M/year (or whatever, hypothetical of coursE) at Freo. Same marginal tax rate as far as I am aware, albeit with a larger absolute tax take on higher lever due to MLS and mo' money. For simplicity it's easier for this battler's brain to consider headline rates so I don't need to have a complex model accounting for a player's current fixed and variable costs current state versus future state. Perhaps it's my fault for not comprehending your reason for including it in the discussion where hitherto it had not been.

Those variables apply, with different values, wherever he is. Unless he lives with mum and pays board. Same for everyone eh. Wish I had a 1M a year issue to deal with tho.

Or 7. 6 x 1.2 or 7 x 1. (Less 49% tax and management fees of course and relocation expenses)

First time I've ever seen mgt fees and marginal tax rates come into it. For those amongst us interested in comparing for-like and not at all interested in delving into management fees and whether a player has structured their tax affairs so as to minimise their tax burder (e.g. JH Management Pty Ltd HQd Singapore providing marketing services to JH Nominees Trust HQd in Grand Caymans and so on), can we stick to headline rates please? On your last point, I think it would be more about locking him in long term AND getting close to any other offer rather than just minimising the difference (which I reckon was probably implied in your answer anyway).

I'm glad they're not head in sand like some

Editor: "Denham! Where's your next story!?" Denham: "Cr#p cr#p cr#p! Hmm let me check my snip file! Well well! Ah yes! My annual 'Hogan to Freo' rumour mill! Let's see if this broken clock can finally be right! I'll just check Demonland to see if they have some intel! Well well! A "Hogan to Freo" thread. Capital work, my dear fellows and fellowettes! You have verily written my article for me!" Hits the keyboard Editor: "What what what? What fresh hell is this? No way Hogan is off to Freo!" Denham: "Ah -ha! We can go Ryan Holliday on this story! Post this article, reference well - placed sources (cough: Demonland rumourtrage), others will pick it up and off we go!" Editor: "This had better end in new subscribers for Rupert!" Denham: "What could go wrong! It's a non story" Article files. Demonland explodes. Article picked up by HS, PerthNow, SEN. Rumour goes Ryan Holliday. Demonland goes nuclear. Jesse's management: "Yo homeboy! Seems Freo is into you. Let me have a chat with them?" JH: "Sure, I do love the Dees and want to stay but can't hurt to ask" Mgr to Freo FD: "Yo, wassup with Hoges. Throw some numbers at me" Freo: "We'll get back to you" Rumours continue swirling. Demonland is in the final stages of Red Giant phase. People's heads are literally exploding. Freo puts offer on table. Freo is half surprised by all this. Hogan convenes meeting with Dees. Deal done. Hogan to Freo. Denham to Editor: "Well that escalated quickly, what?" Editor: "Well it is how Sky News brought down Turnbull. Now pass me that Balvennie would you? This is cause for celebration!" And that my friends is how you engineer a player move. (For those fans of Milligan's " "Rommel?" "Gunner Who?" " I feel it would make things even more ludicrous to read in a clipped German-English accent in the vein of that book.)

Have you ever had a $5M cheque put in front of you?