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Serves half of this forum right for talking about our top 4 chances. This whole season I've just wanted to say 'shut the f#$k up' to those people because so many people were getting ahead of themselves.

I've already lost interest in the season. Good sides have destroyed us this year and losing to Stkilda was the final straw for me. Some people it was over against the pies, some it was over when we lost to port but for me, it was losing to the saints and i don't think we deserve to play finals to the point where I'd almost prefer not to so we work hard in the off season and not think we've made it, bernard tomic style because we came 8th and lost first week

i actually thought that nathan Jones was good. I thought him and gawn were standouts wih fritsch being serviceable. everyone else was disgusting. where was the defensive mindset? weak as p!$$

I don't mind tyson as depth but he is just so slow in the mind and has no awareness. That piece of play against port where he was jogging with the ball blissfully unaware of his surroundings only to get mown down from behind has been so typical of tyson in his career so far. Great accumulator and his skills are okay but for me it's his lack of awareness which is a massive momentum killer.

geez a bit of a hogan groupie. he isnt the same contested mark as he used to be. he wrestles with his opponent, often falls to ground then whinges for frees. he is second fiddle to tom mcdonald and rightly so

for me, its his kicking. can you play a guy who cant kick straight up forward?

the losses against hawks, rich and collingwood were due to our midfielders inability to work both ways. gaff is the worst of that lot. At the end of the day his efforts last year were close to putting him in the wafl. he is much improved this year but i haven't noticed any changes defensively.

he has a rat tail. yikes!

lol. you clearly have no clue re: harden. he literally has compilation videos on his poor defence. proof on gaff? ask any west coast fan. they didnt think he was best 22 last year after some of his efforts. i also had him in my fantasy team so i watched him like a hawk and he was extremely poor defensively.

Because he is from there and decided to not sign a long contract last time. You'd be naive not to think that there is a risk of him leaving with todays free agency culture. Very naive.

mate, brownlow is a midfielders medal. He is an accumulator for one of the best teams in the league. just because you accumulate possessions offensively doesn't mean you are not a liability defensively. It's like getting James Harden to improve your defence, the guy is a spud defensively. And similar for Gaff, he is hopeless at the defensive stuff. Have you not seen much of him play? Geez, don't get sucked in by the numbers mate, look at his defensive work. Which is what we need.

So we just wait a full year until Lever gets back? lol. We need to change something and get more numbers back because once the opposition team wins the clearance you can almost immediately see their pathway to goal.

A slow outside receiver that is poor defensively is not what we need. I don't care how many brownlow votes he gets or how much of the footy he gets, he is terrible defensively and that is definitely not what we need. you've seen us against teams like richmond and hawthorn etc that beat us on the spread. Gaff would make us worse in this aspect.

Once again, you're missing the point. Hogan decided NOT to sign a lengthy contract with us. It's his right. It will also be his right once he becomes a free agent to go wherever he chooses. It's definitely something worth considering if he is likely to go back to W.A.

I think people have missed the point with Hogan. I'm not saying trade him because he isn't good. I personally just feel that he will want a return to W.A. So I'm not sure why people are skimming over this quite possible fact. I'd rather get full value from him than to lose him to free agency. As for the guy that said maybe trading guys like Stretch/Kent etc. will get us the likes of Sam Walsh, a possible top 2 pick. LOL. Try pick 45 son. Also, packaging Dom Tyson with pick 31 would probably get us pick 20 or something around there. 2 averages doesn't equal good on the trade table. Otherwise I'd give up stretch, kent, tyson and pick 31 for buddy. Some people just don't understand how the draft works. Some Watts lovers were spewing when we gave him up for pick 31. Dreaming. He isn't playing regular senior football as I predicted and Fristch is a 200 gamer :)

At this stage our first pick is at pick 31 in a draft that is stacked with talent and suggested to be the best since 2001. Lady luck wasn't on our side with Lever doing his acl so trading our first rounder away this year for him has back fired. But I think Jason Taylor and Josh Mahoney will try and trade their way into the first round. I think we could package our pick 31 with our first rounder for next year to get a pick around pick 12. Alternatively, we get on the front foot and trade out players. Trading hogan out to freo or west coast would be something I would entertain. As i think he will go back anyway, so may as well cash in now. Freo have pick 6. So hogan to freo for pick 6 and their next season's first rounder sounds fair to me. I wouldn't like to trade Hunt, but goodwin doesn't rate him and he isn't getting a game. Hunt may even request a trade. He would net a 2nd round pick. These are the only ways I can imagine getting back into this years draft and mark my words, we will definitely attempt to.

why are all of these reactionary posts? we weren't favourites going into the game so nothing changes. we should have won the game. if we werent so wasteful and the umpires werent sucked in by the crowd noise we would be talking about top 4 right now

cant see us playing finals. i actually think after what happened last season that it was a disgrace that supporters even mentioned finals, let alone top 4. it was laughable. i think we'll finish on 12 wins at the best which i don't think will be enough. norths win tonight hurts us a lot.

frost offers speed. sure, his kicking and decision making is iffy but so was tom mcdonald in his first 6 years as a defender. im not saying frost is going to be better or anything like that but at least he takes the game on and tries to break the lines. we only have 2 players on our list that do that. hunt and frost.

too soon to be talking about next week. we've got nothing to gain from these wins. if we drop it, out of finals. if we win, we continue to be an outside chance to make that 8th spot. i'm not looking forward to these 'easy' games. all to lose and a win doesnt tell us anything about fronting up against good teams

man i mentioned petracca months ago. why are demonlanders so late to the party with things?

i wish our coach was like the scott brothers or hardwick. they're coaches that state their displeasures with the umpiring. i'm gonne spew if i hear goodwin say 'i thought port were great tonight', 'its a game of small margins'. he should be up in arms about the umpiring. they should be named and shamed.

im talking about now. he gets pushed off the ball far too easily. ben brown rag dolled him but most key forwards dont find it hard to outbody omac

sorry mate i disagree here. port are a good team. we played well tonight. sure it wasnt easy to score but what do people expect. its a top 4 team at their home ground. the noise of affirmation is real! id say a legitimate 4 goal difference.

oscar mcdonald has improved a lot but thank god the game isnt like the 90's where there was more 1 on 1s and not as much defensively because he'd be getting bags kicked on him each week