Deemania since 56

In conjunction with many other problems lining up a goal - including the frequency of what is appearing as a preference for those speccy 'around the corner' set shots - we must concentrate on leading out to alternative angles and spaces, forcing a clearance of the hot zone (and development more kicking skills across a 45 metre distance / range), plus more midfield /half forward shots and accuracies 'on the run'. We do not 'set' the ball, we fiddle with it; we over-value static forwards, falsely thinking they are our strengths; our smalls have talents yet are easily dispossessed and/or knocked off an intended line; we have too many forward passengers who should really be working hard and smart to create alternative opportunities in seconds. We must have an enormous insufficiency in our training methods and forward-line creativity for such basic errors to be so prolific.

Don't tell me, I'm still in two minds about the matter; tell him, that's if he can settle down and behave for a change - just like I told her to do.

Maybe Sportsbet already know who the umpires will be for the match - 'umpire assists' will therefore have less impact on the game?

That is correct, that is what happened and certainly, it gave the umpire an opportunity to assist the Hawks at a critical moment, so he did by appearing 'convinced' Petty drew the ball into himself. Petty had already played his smarts, pushing the ball away from his prone body when some tasteless ape jumped on him like a long-long lover, grabbed it and drew it into Petty's body.

Must keep Jackson in for the ruck and give Gawn a well-deserved rest for the coming game - he must be fit and switched on in the finals.

Viney is the out. Vanders in an in. Vanders was rather good after so long out of footy, so he deserves another crack at a few tasks so he can get the V8 steamroller going again.

Totally agreed with this; double the action man, double the speed, double the endeavour with the team.

He is a real talent with these contested possessions and general possessions, his tackling is reliably good, too. He just makes poor decisions as a team member in the disposal of the ball, is slow to maintain the pace of set plays that are underway for our team, and grandstands a few times in possession that leads to being nabbed, caught with the ball and often, a well-drilled play is ended rather unceremoniously. Selfish?

Me, too! Didn't even go to the post-match DL thread to see if everyone else was as irate, disappointed and inwardly hostile as I was since the start of the third quarter. It was a game where we could have won by possibly 40 points - and that is conservative. Talk about keeping the Hawks in the game - talk about ignoring (pretending not to see) overt violations of the tackling, holding, throwing, dropping the ball rules! Under these circumstances, no matter how well we might have played, we would not win the match, once again. Even the Dees' players we tired of it and obviously, were losing interest in the win due to umpire decisions and tolerances, one-way, many times, in an avenue to scoring successfully to stay in the game.

The third quarter, umpire No. 12, 4 goals awarded to the Hawks to make the game 'interesting' by his command. Showboat umpiring and plenty of the sympathetic, inexplicable absence of attention to the inexeperienced Hawks players holding, head-high tackling, throwing of the ball in close. It was almost a declaration by this umpire of his support for the Hawthorn FC.

Certainly one of the observations that stung.

Ken Oath!

Carna Saints !!

We might also be more likely to have to call upon our depth advantage to 'substitute' second-choice players for first-choice preferences due to the heightened workload that such outcomes may involve.

AVB is going to be useful if the Hawks go the bash, as expected. Aaron will have an opportunity, despite the possibly poor weather conditions, to be a presence and a pillar of strength. He does contribute to making us a better team and has recently been playing really well after recovery. Best wishes for a good game, Aaron.

Tomorrow is going to be a bad, bad football day. The weather here in Adelaide has been very wet - almost continuous since dawn - with gale winds every five to ten minutes so it could be even worse by the time it hits Melbourne which is further south and in a straight line heading south east as she blows.

Maybe he could stage some arthritic condition, if he was serious about playing for the Catty Puts. Might fit in, then.

It will not be subtle, it will be aggro/deliberated hurt; it will not be seen or penalised once by the umpires, as well. Wish AVB was playing for the Dees in these circumstances.

In the wet weather and potentially undesirable conditions this weekend, you would think that the Hawks would struggle, enormously, by going tall and that another ideal setting for young Sparrow is snubbed - he could assist us tremendously in ball movement as part of our mobile, scrounging and fleet-footed mid-size fitness brigade.

.... and worst!

It is well past due time for the VFL competition to be better administered and conducted, with improved coverage, status and alignment to AFL clubs and supporters, such as pre-main game fixtures, venues and promotion, for example. Some of us supporters really miss the 'reserves' competition as it was formerly known; it represented a whole day at the footy in one venue, providing tremendous information flows to crowds of supporters on their team and that of opposition sides, and to their attendees.

Irrelevant due to their upstart demands being regularly met by the AFL, and ability to offer top dollar to the player as a nurturant incentive.

We have done really well over the last two years in recruiting younger players with talent and great potential. Just like fruit on the vine, allow these future Demons the chance to ripen over time ... recruiting one ruckman just is not the sole outcome of our development or onfield success.

Geelong will come from behind, in the 'dark, out-of-picture nowhereland', and snatch him above all other clubs.