Engorged Onion

remember when an average loss was 12 goals (80 odd points) and a big one was 110 plus... be thankful for perspective.

the narrative serves the narrative....

where is matthew whelan??

love the tenacity - 4 goals 'feels' a bridge to far

more easierly accomplished with a midfield for those players you mentioned to pop - mind you, olivers smashed without another 3 mids - Gawn is the only surprise really, but 3?4? games in from a return... under done post injury.

its unfamiliar for BOTH teams...

Oh agreed - there has been so much persistence in games this year - for something that we have seen in a decade and a half.. Adelaide are far to classy when they're on for us not to have 4-5 top players NOT in - to be disappointed that we are getting smashed - the common parlance is post a loss with all your players in - something along the lines of "we were 5% off"...well we're objectively 20% off - whilst its good exposure for smith, jkh and even trac in the midfield - seasons aren't won and lost on these games, and its great learning for some. We'd be closer if we had said midfield...

Measured as always Col...

The ground 'aint the problem...

Tis ugly - and if we get smashed only one game this year - then I am happy to concede this as well filter back in our top 5 - hope we can pull the margin back - and clearly without the midfield - no adelaide oval heroics ahead, me thinks...

now @Ethan Tremblay

RTG - I suspect you're missing the point.. if that's what you perceive me to be on about. I'm all about having robust discussion which invariably there is a disagreement on opinions - as its a forum its not about that at all - its about criticising the individual, rather than the content of their thoughts...

personally i'm satisfied with 90 odd comments on here - as presumably people actually do give a damn about it enough one way or the other to comment on it... hope we have a win tonight in Darwin - and am resigned to a loss based on injuries...

I would say 90%+ of the time its polite, and the banter is superb - and only at times does it cross a line (at least in my perception) - of course this may not be the other persons experience - but who's to say it isn't either. Further, the process to deal with repeat offenders would clearly be up to the mods (who by everyones account do a great job of accountability) and not driven by my suggestion..it was simply that, a suggestion. If anything, I just wanted to highlight some concerns of mine and promote some discussion. I work daily in mental health and it felt remiss of me for what I stand for to not put in on the table - its clearly up to each individual to do what they want with my thoughts.

Krong Siem Reap - sure thing @Skuit

I agree, I've been on 1 year - not even actually and I don't get offended, and I can see how people do - I wince at some comments made to others - not that I am self proclaimed moral arbiter - yet i still think its important to discuss....

@Skuit amusingly so - but not all, and that's ok - mine is just one persons opinion, and not the way life should be lived.

can't say that I don't live the dream myself...

white male privilege is everywhere...

So darned eloquent a polite @Biffen

I'm not surprised at the 'soft' response and how its 'just words' - to some and no wonder our kids are weak etc etc... clearly I'm not going to convince you to change your minds. Maybe i read too much stuff after becoming a new dad.... Mmm, I am a mung bean munching sandal wearing, tree hugging, left wing leaning softy at heart... I'll see myself out for a while :)...*trudges off with head hanging in shame... Ps...Neeld is a [censored].

Some friday musings over a coffee or 4... We bang on about mental health on here, yet numerous posters prefer to attack the man vs the content. Now I'm not coming from a holier than thou perspective, I am coming from a compassionate perspective and we've no idea really how someone feels when their attacked - even if their response would suggest they're cool with it. Personally, I get quite upset (angry AND sad) when I see some posters critiquing others on here rather than the content. Would love a 3 strikes and you're banned for a bit rule.

Funny you say that @Abe - as it was happening - I was thinking the exact opposite - I thought he will definitely spot someone in the centre (even if the option wasn't quite there) - I can't recollect a time that when there is another option, he has a ping himself... it's pretty rare that he isn't selfless..

I think its marvellously honourable of the AFL to do this - their transparency in alerting Hird and Essendon about ASADA to save face was deceitful and self serving, so why stop now? - I suspect numerous mothers and fathers of these players will be sobbing tonight...and sending quite stern correspondence to AFL HQ tomorrow.

sigh.... so did I - shame he did nothin but eat pies...