Rodney (Balls) Grinter

The Bulldogs comparison is pretty tenuous. If you look back to the 90s and early 2000s era, we always had heaps more supporters than them, so should have a much bigger base from which to build.

Not completely dismissing the one fairly good year that he had in his Brownlow yeah, comparing to Woewodin is a pretty low bar. Todd Viney was an absolute bull of a midfeilder over his career and there are plenty of others during that era that make a better benchmark than Woewodin.

Exactly. Whilst it could be argued that it is in the players best interests due to higher risk factors (lots of spare cash, high pressures of high performace sport, constantly being in the public eye etc), I pepetually get sick of the double standards and higher burdens of being model citizens put on AFL players. Please tell me what other industry has a policy of mandatory testing and in particular 'naming and shaming' of it's employees for elicit drugs? If the AFL and those in the media keep pushing for the removal of the two stikes policy I think it could have two likely consequences: 1. The AFLPA tell them to stick the elicit drugs testing policy up their date all together; 2. Players whom are so inclined will stick to elicit drugs which become undetectable in the shorter time frames, which could be some of the more dangerous drugs; I actually like where Dane Sawn is going with his veiws on this: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/everyone-in-the-afl-should-be-tested-dane-swans-radical-plan-to-expand-footys-drugs-policy/news-story/236650c1fffdf96f77acc27aa4f01cfd

I recon it also had a fair bit to do with this crap game style that so many teams have adopted of putting every player into the 50m arc, choking up the ground to the max and double/tripple teaming key forwards. Not enough clean one on one footy these days to allow many contested marks. Hopefully 6-6-6 (the Demonic rule) provides a bit more space and opportunity for Tommy, Joel Smith, Weid, Trac, Hannan and Max/Preuss (the Greuss) to dominate our forward 50 this year, whilst Maysy, Frosty, Hibbo, Jetta, Freitch and Oscar can limit our oppositions opertunities and totally control our back 50 this year.

I think the Weid is a much more conventional and well rounded footballer than Cox. Whilst I must admit, I haven't see that much of Cox, he seems a bit one dimensional to me - a big tall guy who take marks and can play in the ruck, though if he can do those things well enough, he has few rivals that can match his physical advantages. His goal kicking is pretty reliable and I'm pretty impressed with how the guy has been able to make it at the top level of a sport so completely foreign to him. Like you say, it will be interesting to see if he can maintain his form moving forward and how the opposition might combat that. In this respect, whilst I know we recruited Pruess with the intention of playing him as a ruck/forward, I wounder if playing him back on Cox would be the way to go as from all reports Pruess has incredible strength and when combined with his height, he might be a good option to nullify Cox if he posed a threat to us we needed to contain.

BTW I do like the look of what the Weid is becomes, just don't want to count any chickens. The thought of Tommy, Sammy and big Pruess imposing themselves in our forward line is very mouth watering though.

Hogan is/was a sensational ball handler off the deck

Sorry, but I'm joining @wrecka45 on crashing the Weid love-in. Weid has presented a credible target and for 4 or 5 games in a good side playing great footy at the perfect time in big games. Jesse provided a good target and proven goal kicker over 4 seasons in a team which was absolute poo in his first season. Not comparing apples with apples. Jessy is a positive outlier in terms of his early development, Weid has followed the more typical path of a key forward. I'm not anwhere near as interested in their performance for the MFC to date as what I am in their performance going forward. Go Demons and go the Weid, bring us a flag, that's all I really care about in this debate.

I do like what we have so far in the 2021 and beyond columns.

Chaos for oppo backs, predictable laces out delivery to advantage for our forwards. Awesome to have Jake commit long term to our Demons. Should see him into father son territory for his new arrival to qualify down the track as well.

In the classic words of Jerry McGuire: "SHOW ME THE MONEY"

That's ok, let him fly under the radar a bit so we don't need to pay overs with draft pick points etc when we bit for him. Maybe he could play for that mob at Tambellup for a bit - I heard there was a pretty good player from there once!

As I've stated before, getting this done before Rd 1 will help provide stability to our season. I guess once all the actual substance is sorted out and Goody has effectively signed on the bottom line, then the next consideration might be when to announce it to generate maximum publicity for our membership/sponsorship drives etc. We seem to be somewhat media darlings at present and need to milk that for all that it's worth whilst it lasts.

Need to get brother Andrew into a Demons kit sooner rather than later, their poor mum looks confused with all those scarfs on and none of them a MFC one ? All is forgiven: ‘Very fit’ Brayshaw pumped for 2019 https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2019-preseason-no-animosity-towards-andrew-gaff-says-mark-brayshaw/news-story/29f8904833d17e9ca00dc78aa1005ca5

I know of the daily plannet, but not as far as knowing what street it is on! A mate of mine did use to live in a street in the Croydon area which is "The Nook" - there is a brothel on that street too.

It would be a bit of a marketing fail to open a brothel in the area wouldn't it. ...or conversely is that how the area got it's name originally. Along similar lines, there is the locally based business 'Cockburn Cement' - an early version of viagra for when you've had a big night on the nest, but just need to keep powering on! ...perhaps?

As much as I don't hold anything like the same sort of grudge agains Hoges as I do against that little [censored] $cully, I really do hope we smash Freo this game and send a strong message to Hoges for the sake of any others that might want to jump ship. I'd prefer no uncalled for boooing (though I'm sure there will be some), but just for the MFC to turn up and put on a display of force that Jesse will remember and make him think about what he has walked away from over on the East Coast. ...and at the end of the game when Steve May shakes Jesse's hand, he won't just be saying thanks for the game, he will be saying thanks for this opportunity.

Still on ADSL. For the most part it serves our needs ...on a $40 per month plan if I recall correctly. I'm not really that keen on paying any more for Internet if we don't really need the extra bandwidth/speed.

I honestly can't understand why with all the competition from Internet TV streaming services Foxtel prices haven't come down to better compete with them. I hate the infated Foxtel prices, but our internet service isn't that great, thus I like my footy viewing to be independent of something which sometimes either gets choked up with bandwidth or goes on the blink randomly or when it rains or something. We are only on a pretty cheap internet service and could probably get better by paying a few more bucks, but that becomes a bit self defeating. How/why haven't Foxtel dropped their prices a bit more? Is it the price of satellite access or something? Just curious.

I guess it goes to show how in AFL these days players are only a dozen or so games from being a superstar to an ordanary player - at least in the eyes of the media and some supporters (myself included). When he was at his peak, KK was a player that I really thought, gee there's a player I'd like to have at Melbourne, but those few seasons or so of concussion and average form have just put that question mark over him that can he get back to his best. Really looking forward to see what he can do for the MFC.

A [censored] one. I'm just glad that phone cameras and social media were not a thing back in my youth and I recon alot of players back in the 70s, 80s, 90s era that are pretty glad of that too.

Agree with the above and whilst I think local residents views both for and against are important, I've been thinking that one thing that certainly shouldn't be discounted are the view of us MFC supporters as well. As MFC supporters, we are still part of the comunity and pretty important stakeholders regardless of living in the city council/local area or not. Even though I now live interstate, I still feel a real affiliation for the MFC and Yarra Park area and really don't like 'Plan B' options anywhere near as much, because let's face it, they are further from our home the mighty G, further from the range of public transport options and generally inferior. ...and their are over 40,000 MFC members + more non member supporters. This precinct doesn't just belong to the local residents, there is a degree to which it belongs to all of us. I don't want to go as far as saying that the MFC has some kind of 'native title' to this area, because there is nothing like that level of cultural/spiritual equivalence. However, I do also think that the MFC has a significant historical association with this location and that shouldn't count for nothing either when it comes to planning approval considerations.

Surely with all the coin that the AFL have been prepared to throw at the expansion clubs a bit of funding from them would be a reasonable thing. As for some of the others, like Melbourne City Council, the Victorian and National Governments and even the MCC to an extent and surely they need to reconise the cultural and heritage importance and significance of the MFC and that the club really needs a proper permanent facility around the location of it's historical birthplace and namesake to survive and prosper into the future. Some important negioation, politicing and promotion of the MFC cause to be done by Pert, Bartlett and Co to be done over the next few years I think. Melbourne members and supporters can and should be part of that push.

The opposition to the potential MFC training facility at Yarra Park by some of the local residents assioation has been well highlighted in this thread and is certainly something that the club will need to work on/with. However, it was also interesting listening to the Glen Bartlett interview that one of the things he said is that there was actually a shortage of playing feilds in the area. What I'm reading into that is that is that the MFC needs to build support and alliances with some of the local sporting clubs in the area to them behind the proposal. That kind of local community support would help ballance out the disgruntled resident types by demonstrating real mutual comunity benifit. I recon it's a case of watch this space.

I agree with others views such as @binman and @Lucifer's Hero that a meeting place for members/fans/supporters is important. If we segway to the other thread about rebuilding the MFC as a great club again, then great club's are based around people and I think that bringing together all our people and building a sense of belonging is vital to that. I hear the sentiments of those like @Sir Why You Little that not all MCC members are the wealthy toff types and that stereotyping and segregating MFC supporters is not the way to go. Thus a truely universal social facility that brings together MFC & MFC/MCC members under the one roof would be a good outcome. I 've never been an MCC member myself, but for most of my life I've been a MFC member - presently an interstate one. When in my youth a real highlight of our home games going to the footy was attending the 'Demons Club' (I think that's what it use to be called) in one of the function rooms in bouls of the old Northern stand. I recall it having a bit of a mix of MFC and MCC supporters, they put on a good spread of nibbles and it was a great family atmosphere. In my view that's the kind of thing we need to rebuild as a cultural institution of the MFC and it would be good if that could encompass all of the Redleg Club (which I recall as being more of a MCC crowd, but could well be wrong), Demon Army, standard rank and file MFC members together in one spot. Perhaps that's actually the kind of thing which could provide the value to some of the MCC members to join as combined MFC members.