Rodney (Balls) Grinter

1 hour ago, MoeSyzlak said:

I don’t understand why we don’t play Harmes in his best role. 
 

He  plays his best footy as a shut down player. We have seen the importance of that type of job in recent weeks. 
 

why doesn’t Goody use him like that anymore?

At his best, he's also pretty good at connecting inside 50.

Anyone remember that pass to Fritsch in the 21 GF?

4 minutes ago, Colm said:

Ok then, Harmes, pick 5,13 and future first for Harley Reid.  

Yeah, I think that would get it done.

26 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

i can't see us willingly let harmes walk along with jj

we are light on for midfield depth as it is, let alone senior bodies

inside mids in 2024:

• petracca
• viney
• brayshaw
• oliver
• sparrow
• woewodin

even if you add rivers that's not a lot of depth

Agree with that.

Particularly with a bit of a cloud over Gus present as well.

We're only an injury to Trac, Viney or Clarry from be exposed for midfield depth.

I actually think Harmes would be a good option for a club like West Coast that has bottomed out and needs a few players with mature bodies and good training attitudes around to help establish culture.

I'm sure his mate Jayden would put in a good word for him.

16 hours ago, Bates Mate said:

Not best 22 certainly , but good depth . Definately would have preferred him over Laurie  and Jordon in the finals this year if he was fit 

He was best 22 in a premership team a few years back.  At his best he's a compeditive and capable player.

Agree that this year his senior games were rubbish, but mainly because I think his confidence was completely shot that resulted in him making some mind bogglingly bad decisions and skill errors.

3 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

That could have been Petraccas only real shot to win, Oliver missing, Daicos missed several games, Gulden and Butters will be a force next year.

The player that hid his Norm Smith looked embarrassed and didn't want to be there tonight.

I think he and everyone here would be much happier with another premiership medal around his neck.  Locky and Daicos can have all the Brownlows they want.

3 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

Oliver only 6 from his ten games he was Fav before he was injured,

Melbourne Brownlow Medal club votes

Name	Votes
Christian Petracca	26
Jack Viney	24
Max Gawn	7
Clayton Oliver	6
Bailey Fritsch	4
Angus Brayshaw	4
Steven May	3
Lachie Hunter	3
Kysaiah Pickett	2
Jacob van Rooyen	2
Kade Chandler	2
Harrison Petty	2
Jake Melksham	2
Ben Brown	1
Christian Salem	1

So the other anomalies here:

We have the best backline in the league and they only get 4 votes between them (8 at the very generous end if any of Gus's backline work counts).  Out of a total of around 90 votes.

Jake Lever gets 0 votes?

Jake Bowey 0 votes?

Seriously please take the voting off the umps.

1 minute ago, YearOfTheDees said:

Oliver only 6 from his ten games he was Fav before he was injured,

Melbourne Brownlow Medal club votes

Name	Votes
Christian Petracca	26
Jack Viney	24
Max Gawn	7
Clayton Oliver	6
Bailey Fritsch	4
Angus Brayshaw	4
Steven May	3
Lachie Hunter	3
Kysaiah Pickett	2
Jacob van Rooyen	2
Kade Chandler	2
Harrison Petty	2
Jake Melksham	2
Ben Brown	1
Christian Salem	1

Umpires hate him, what can you say.

23 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Seems Trac and Bont are destined to never win one despite being the best players every year and influencing games more than their peers. Both got robbed of clear votes tonight. 

Trac getting no votes in the final game was stupid. Getting 1 vote for his game against the Saints was stupid.

The umpires are stupid. I’m [censored] sick of them. The umpires have determined the outcome of games this year and illegitimately shaped the entire finals series. It’s beyond pathetic and as someone who’s attending 100s of live games since the 1980s, I’m thiiiiiiis close to giving up on the sport because of their [censored] incompetence and the rules being so vague etc. Stuff this

I had to check that Bont actually hadn't won a Brownlow, because I'd sworn he had.

You can add Max and Clarry to that list that should have won one.

19 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Viney with 24 votes. Should have been AA.

100% please tell me how he's not better than Zac Merrit or Josh Daicos.

6 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

BEST 
Sydney: Gulden, Mills, Parker, Warner, McCartin
Melbourne: Petracca, Fritsch, Viney, May, Brayshaw

 

umps!!! 

So Cunrow can hardly score a vote all season and Fritsch gets 2 votes for kicking 4?

...Well I guess consistency isn't exactly a strong suit of umpires is it.

3 minutes ago, Green Demon said:

https://twitter.com/andrew_whelan/status/1706289285065032157/photo/1

 

For a side that finished 2nd, the umpires couldn't find another player to give votes to.  Apparently even Ashcroft who was gods gift to football in much the same way as Daicos couldn't even score a vote.

Similar story for Collingwood for that matter.

1 minute ago, Demonsone said:

Did Goody moving him cost him the Brownlow lol

Who cares.  As the players would say - we don't play for Brownlows.

7 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

Trac's kicking for goal most likely cost him the medal.

Rather he wins the Norm Smith again.  Didn't cost him that one.  Just needs another season like that.

2 Norm Smith's Vs 2 Brownlows?

Great result for the MFC.

If it's not Max or Clarry taking votes, it's Jack.

Great season from both of Cristian and Jack.  Jack in particular.

How Trac didn't score a single vote in that game says something about it being rigged though.

8 minutes ago, Chook said:

Maybe but May was ridiculously good in that game.

St Kilda didn't have a player over 5 foot 6 left on the ground though 

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

May got 3 😂

Did he play as a ruck rover?

So, has anyone other than a midfielder got votes?

Does Petty get in the votes against Richmond?

Good to see Viney getting some recognition for his great season.

I expect Max to take pleanty of votes from Trac late in the season.

1 minute ago, Clintosaurus said:

Daicos will win. Umps bought the media hype.

Yep, that's what the below doesn't factor for.

8 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Great predictor work here

 

I wasn't actually going to watch tonight.

Feels kind of hollow.

It would be ironic if Trac does win it tonight when he probably had a much better 2021.

Similarly Clarry should have won last year.  

Seems such a shame that the league and media still makes this the premier players award when the voting is so flawed.  AFLPA or coaches awards should be elevated to become the Brownlow replacement.  Letting the umpires decide the league best and fairest is such a waste.

So are we actually asking the right question here?

Do we need an Yze replacement or a forwards coach or both.

For what it's worth, I think Yze has largely escaped criticism for the lack of forward connection in the past few years, when perhaps he was actually due some.  Was a part of our 2021 premiership, by all acounts a great coach and a great player in his day and for both those things I'll be forever greatful.  But maybe he has past his usefulness at the MFC and I think this actually presents a great opportunity for renewal.

Just throwing some names out there as potential expert forward coaches Garry Lyon, David Schwartz, Mathew Lloyd, Brad Johnson.

17 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

What a shambles. Collingwood now blaming Ticketek for giving out any standing room tickets to GFG members.

The Pies called for the AFL to increase competing club allocation from 17,000 to 20,000 and on Ticketek to “improve their system” in a statement released on Monday, in which they also said that any priority one member that was given a standing room ticket in the ballot would be upgraded to a seated ticket.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/grand-final-guarantee-collingwood-to-ensure-top-level-members-get-to-the-decider-20230925-p5e7bo.html

I'd be blaming Ticketek too. Their systems are a joke.

When I logged on for the Carlton game and finally got through, it kept rejecting my request for category 2 or 3 seating, on the basis of insufficient tickets, despite saying they had tickets available in those sections.  Session ended up timing out and in the end I was lucky to end up with a category 4 seats behind the goals on the 4th level after waiting in the que a second time.  I was only after 3 seats.

If you pay for a grand final day guarantee, you'd expect more than standing room.

It's time Gil and the AFL got up Ticketek.  They've got a monopoly to print money and it's time they provided a service that actually works properly.

18 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

Dentists are there to remove teeth. For that genuine Collingwood feel. 

Ah, yeah.  For any band wagon jumpers.

They'll also get a Medicare rebate for the lobotomy required to become a fully fledged supporter as well.