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The HUN is reporting that the awarding of the 17th license to GC17 is not a formality, and, amid the financial crisis, the commission is going to consider it more:

GC17 deal uncertain amid world financial crisis

I wonder, if the license is denied, if the draft concessions will still go ahead as scheduled. If the clubs had known of this a week ago, maybe they would have been less reluctant to trade their draft picks this week.

I understand your sentiment and I don't want him either but why shouldn't an elite sportsmen be able to choose a club during trade week. Wasn't this one of the reasons this week was set up?

'Elite'? I'd hardly call him elite. He's an unproven ruckman with potential: that means he could end up great, or end up a nobody. And, until free agency is cleared by the AFL, this week was set up for clubs to trade their commodities: draft picks and players. Not for players to move themselves around as they see fit.

Trade Bell, Chris Johnson and Carroll all for a half eaten ham sandwich for all I care. Or even delist one of Bell or CJ if necessary as they're both out of contract.

We could get much better for CJ. And I'd keep him before I delisted him. I think he showed enough this year.

Green > o'Keefe

O'Keefe is severely overrated.

Would do nothing in a crap team.

Unlike Green who shone this season.

Disagree. Green shone this season compared to the rest of our players, not compared to the competition. O'Keefe is still a better player, and probably had just as good a 2008 without reaching his best.

Return of cricket today with the first day of the first test of the Bordar-Gavaskar trophy. This should be a cracking series. I think India will win it too.

Cameron White makes his debut, representing Victoria.

Ponting won the toss, elected to bat. Zaheer Khan bowled the first over, and had Hayden caught behind third ball. Replays suggest the noise was bat on pad, not bat on ball. Currently 1/7 in the 7th over, Ponting on 6, Katich on 1.

Does it add up? O'Keefe to Hawks, Green to Syd, Pick 16 and Taylor to Dees? IMO there would have to be one, maybe two other picks included. ie Perhaps our pick 35 or 51 to Sydney.

Yeah I agree HT. When you look at that, Melbourne are clear winners, and Sydney clear losers. Green for O'Keefe is definitely a loss, O'Keefe for pick 16 is about right IMO, and pick 16 and Taylor for Green is a definite win for us (even without Taylor). So you'd think Sydney would demand more than just Green, they'd be unlikely to take this the way it is. Unfortunately for us, I don't know if pick 35 would be enough. If we had a pick in the 20s, then maybe that would do.

Jake Niall (I think) reported in the Age today that we had considered offering Fremantle pick 19 for Warnock.

I don't like the sound of that. I thought Stynes had said we weren't trading 1, 17 or 19. Unless we pick up another pick before 19, I don't want to see us trade it.

Edit: It's in here: http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/hawk...3145445615.html

"Melbourne, which retains a keen interest in Warnock, is understood to be prepared to trade pick 19 for the ruckman, whose brother plays at the Demons. The Dockers ruckman, however, is not believed to be keen on moving to the Demons"

Crap player, but better than Seaby.

http://afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/2...px?newsId=68769

Should be the first trade of the week.

I don't understand why the AFL feels a need to be there. If the two clubs can't get a deal done, doesn't that just mean the deal doesn't get done? It should be the clubs' problems for not dealing.

Fremantle is bluffing, if they say they will re-draft him. They shouldn't risk it. He doesn't want to be there, they'll have a player on their list who has publicly stated he wishes he was playing for another club.

The AFL's excuse (according to the article Demon Head posted) is that they are sick of deals not being done until the last few hours. So what? Again, isn't that the clubs' problems? If a club can't get a player it wants, it shouldn't receive help from the AFL.

I have to say, I'm glad to see Jamar is off the table. Mainly because, if we were going to trade him, we'd likely be looking at Seaby. Which would be horrible.

But he will be good trade bait.

If we put him and pick 51 together then we should get pick no 4 from Port easily!

I agree, #38 to Port Adelaide to Port for Pick 4, Bell can be the sweetener.

Haha, love it.

Martin Martin Martin.....whats to "develop" ???? we've done it for you !!!

Mm, yeah good point bub. I wonder if they're twisting the design we sent them in some way. I hope it's not red to white.

Prismall owes us nothing (never has, never will) and if he thinks he will be better off at the Bombers then who the hell are we to criticise.

Honestly its his life and his future that he has to worry, not about the feelings of a club that has nothing to do with him.

Putting aside your obvious bias, would you want to play for us?

Give me a single good reason why you would choose this club over ANY of the others if you had the choice?

Precisely. It's our fault for players not wanting to come to our club. Not theirs.

I would agree with you Redleg, but I have no knowledge about Thorp or Dowler. I take it they're forwards?

The retirement of jumpers is a load of ceremonial crap.

Collingwood transferred Buckley's No 5 guernsey to Maxwell as soon as he retired.

I think Essendon did the same with Hird's jumper.

Just get Neitz to present to a young player deemed worthy of it.

I agree, however, I didn't mind when we retired number 20 for the 2005 season, following the incidents of Boxing Day 2004.

But, in terms of a retiring player, of course there's no reason to retire the number. Just give it to a new player and move on.

I sent both a link to this thread and a picture of the jumper to Martin Cox.

He replied:

Thanks for your feedback. The Club has received lots of feedback regarding our clash jumper, and we are developing a design that takes all of this feedback on board.

I hope he's telling the truth.

The one change was the drafting of Ayce Cordy by the Bulldogs at # 14 which effectively, gives them pick # 32 as their first selection on draft day in November unless they trade for an earlier selection. As it stands at the moment Melbourne has the 1st, 16th and 18 real choices in the national draft given that the Bulldogs are now out of the early part of proceedings:-

No idea why, but 1, 16, 18 looks much nicer than 1, 17, 19.

what about the 'we'll trade pick 19 for warnock' just to [censored] carlton off. take the paper work say we'll look over it, then change our mind at the last minute, too late to trade to carlton and then snare him in the PSD? lol carlton wont offer their first round pick, and if they do they deserve to be screwed.

Sounds good, but I'd assume Carlton wouldn't just sit there waiting for us, they'd be looking at other, similar offers and would just turn their back on us once they realised we're looking at PSD.

Jones and pick 35 for pick 4. Bell and pick 51 for pick 22?

Yeah good call Pax, then our only next move would be to turn water into wine, and then trade White and Yze to WC for pick 2

With Joel Macdonald & David Armitage the only players not mentioned above that Demon staff showed some interest in to their respective clubs.

Aargh..

I hate all this talk about Armitage. Why on earth would we consider him? He's just an average, run of the mill crap player. This would have to be a worse decision than looking at Seaby.

Looks like a straight swap, Prismall for Lovett could be on the cards.

I'm not sure Geelong would rate Lovett highly enough.

I like CJ, but I wouldn't care much if we traded him, especially if someone is willing to part with a pick in the 20s or 30s.

Damn. I'd like Prismall to come to Melbourne, but I suspect, given the choice, he'd take Essendon (or, for that matter, any other Victorian club) over Melbourne.

No

What a joke. I have already lost most interest. By the time they're announced there will already be contenders for next year's award.

The problem I think is that the nominations from Round 1 have had, what, 5, 6 months to accumulate votes? The ones from the grand final have had 2 weeks. I think they're letting it stretch out so that there can be a fair amount of votes for the later nominations.

But that's beside the point. A panel of judges should decide the winner. It shouldn't be a popularity contest.

Edit: According to Mike Sheahan, no one at the AFL knows what's going on in regards to MOTY and GOTY:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl...1-19742,00.html