titan_uranus

your facts are based of surveys that reach possibly 10% of its target audience

Well how else would you like to conduct a survey?

And at least Rogue had some facts. All you've got is fictional tripe.

Today Connolly writes his follow-up to his 'exclusive' yesterday. Apparently he didn't consult Hird because he writes for the Herald Sun.

Read it here:

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/hird...2217333513.html

I spoke to a couple of the Hawthorn brains trust at the end of the H&A season. They said that Col's performance on Buddy was the best of any defender's all year.

The next Darren Glass (if he stays in defence).

I agree, I thought Buddy's worst game for the year was against us (that was before the final last Saturday), and that was mainly due to Garland.

As for the Glass analogy, I would disagree. Glass is a different kind of player, less mobile, and stays very close to goal. Garland has the ability to push up the ground more, is much more mobile and athletic.

Keep.

Move to CHF.

Is that a joke, or do you really think he should play forward?

For mine, we must keep him. Then we must pray. Then, hopefully, he will return to being a top-class defender.

could titan uranus or whoever made that awesome one int his thread of the MFC logo, try it with the demon logo because i agree with nudge- jimmy would want a demon in it- and lets face it..the demon could be in the navy blue with white outline..identical to this jumper, with navy blue trim and sides.

it would look good.

I understand that the demon might be at the forefront of Jim's mind, however the point of this thread was to take the jumper with the MFC insignia and find out how popular it is. It was 45hotgod's idea in another thread, and it shows how popular this jumper is amongst the Demonland fans. If you prefer the demon, you can vote for the second option in the poll.

So long as we don't give up pick 1, 17 or 19 then I'd be happy to get him. But like most people I highly doubt it's true.

I can't believe Yze got votes on Queens Birthday. And I also can't believe Wonna got no votes against Fremantle.

But I'm glad Bate's work against Sydney was recognised.

Interesting stuff WJ. Out of interest, does anyone know how many votes Richmond got last year? For comparison with our 24, which I thought was a decent amount considering our season (to put it another way, we averaged 8 votes a win...)

Well, I reckon 68 out of 70 so far is pretty definitive. Hopefully some more votes come in soon, then I'll send the results to the club.

We will get 6 votes out of the West Coast game, and another 8-10 from Brisbane and Fremantle. After that we're struggling, but we might pick up a 1 in the second Hawthorn game, or possibly the first Geelong game. But other than those two I can't think off the top of my head of any other votes, which makes a 'grand' total of 18 at absolute best, but more likely 14 or lower.

Too old.

Matthew Bate is his clone. They play identical roles.

Ill stick with the 21 year old Bate thanks.

Nonsense.

That's not nonsense at all Mono. Bate does play the same role as O'Keefe. The difference is that O'Keefe is about 5 times better than Bate. But Bailey is developing Bate into a half-forward who can push up into the midfield at times.

Copeland, Mills, Kiel and Chris Schmidt all delisted from Brisbane:

http://www.lions.com.au/tabid/5085/Default.aspx?newsid=67882

Star player, but I guess we can't entertain thoughts regarding anyone over the age of 25. 27 is too old for Melbourne, even if the player is Ryan O'Keefe.

Actually I liked the way he played towards the end of the year; so much so that I would be inclined to keep him. I reckon he's got some real skill, and we all know that we desperately need players who can kick the ball.

Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised nor upset if he was traded.

As Geddy pointed out, it's funny how good our youngsters look yet how incredibly bad our season was.

Anyway, Morton first, Martin second, Wonaeamrri third. That's where they finished this year, but I think Maric will end up better than Martin and Wonna.

My only criticism of it is that there are a few younger supporters that I've shown the picture to, that don't like it because it "looks too much like Carlton's." Those who know of our history, and also about Fitzroy's jumper, etc. obviously won't think that, but it might be something to consider.

Melbourne kids who only hate Carlton cause their parents do, might also dislike anything that reminds them of that club.

That's a good point Chook, however I do remember reading earlier this year that Carlton was scrapping that jumper anyway, so that problem might fix itself. Well, at least I hope so.

(And Titan, i'm glad you were brave enough to take up my suggestion )

No worries 45. So far it looks like it was a good suggestion too, with 41 out of 42 votes going for it (97.62%). I hope that trend continues.

Like bub, I really do like Petterd, but I fear we will never see him reach his potential thanks to injuries. But he has definitely shown enough in just 11 games to be persevered with.

Fantastic read. Those statistics really do show how far behind we are.

Not sure about top 6, but i remember alot of people had him going to the swans at pick 9 or 10 IIRC.

Yeah, from memory I believe he wasn't expected to be around when we got him at 14.

Let's see how groin-grabbingly good this design is:

If you like this one, vote (1). If you like any other design you have seen, vote (2) (and mention the design you prefer).

Sandilands gets hitouts but a) they don't go to advantage and B) he does bugger all around the ground. He's 6"11 and he only hits the target with hitouts 23% of the time. Petrie is 6"5 and does it at 21%. Hille's 6"6 and also hits at 21%

Petrie laid twice as many tackles, kicked twice as many goals, followed up better at stoppages and worked harder up and down the ground.

Just because a guy is big doesn't make him a good ruckman.

Most of those figures were probably inflated by some much better games in the second half of the year. You missed my point, which is that Petrie and Hille didn't have as good a year as Sandilands.

As Freak mentioned, Sandilands wasn't selected to tackle or kick goals. Petrie spent much more time in the forward line than Sandilands. And his ruckwork isn't as good as Sandilands'.

Petrie kicked twice as many goals as Cox, and laid many more tackles too. Does that make him a better ruckman than Cox?

MAYBE BELL FOR THOMSON AND BENTLEY.

If Port Adelaide are that stupid, then fine by me. But I highly doubt this will happen.

Don't know anything about Bentley, but a definite no to Ray, Griffen and Tenace, unless they end up in the PSD, and there's absolutely no one else better that's available.

1. No white allowed. Therefore all 4 suck.

2. Plain and simple. Therefore all 4 suck.

3. No crap designs. Therefore all 4 suck.

Sorry, but I really dislike all those jumpers above. Red background, blue MFC/demon. That's it.