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Is it the Melb way to lose the last two and win tonight? GWS were quite bad last week. Something strange tells me we win. Lets have a look who we can poach from GWS while we are at it. If its windy, then we know what we are going to see!

So if we haven't given up hope of Clarkson coming and Ross Lyon is an active target, doesn't that answer the question "is Goodwin the right guy." - Obviously the club doesnt think he is either.

It never ends. It’s a life thing.

Besides Ryan and Kelly, anyone else think that looked more like rugby? Great win WCE. Dees, Giants, Saints choking it up

Saints starting to get the wobbles

STK well on top early here, can tell WCE have half their side out.

Feel the same way.

Will paying him out be that much out of pocket? He’s not going to get a full pay out. Also he doesn’t listen to his assistant coaches imo and they end up leaving. If we are 1-4 next year, the club will be well on its way to folding.

Wouldn’t it be those teams asking, not the AFL asking the teams? We aren’t good enough, as seen very early in the season, before “travel” excuses. Unsure how you come up with the AFL asking teams in contention LH.

Why would the AFL want WB in the finals? Especially after their flag. And why would they want them over us? also in your own stats we have had less four day breaks than our opponents.

I hope they all go, but how many assistants has he had in four years? Also some of the best going around have sat next to him in Jennings, McCartney and Rawlings, then throw in the experience of Richardson who may not have made a senior coach but highly regarded assistant. This is a big problem, Goodwin has no idea and he doesn’t want to be told either imo

What was our excuse early in the year? Not an issue before the last two games when we were 4 from 5? We ran out both games well. The issue is when sides come with a plan, Goodwin has no idea how to fix it. Even Trac said we struggled to cope last two games when sides dropped a spare man back. It beggars belief. Not having a go at you mate, I’m just not copping the travel excuse, it was all there to see early in the season also.

Punishing? Before the last two embarrassing losses we’d won 4 out of 5? Albeit lowly teams in there but ran games out well and even in the last two losses we finished with plenty of energy, even Trac says it’s not even an issue. What was our excuse early in the year when we were playing the same? I think we are quite undisciplined but that doesn’t excuse no structure and not turning up, which is a common theme for years. Travel excuse is a way for them to get an out, but there’s deeper issues that have been lingering for a long time.

The more I think of all of this, not that expected Pert to say anything, he and Goodwin are totally spin masters and I’m less confident than ever. Pert lost me earlier on and Goodwin well before that. Supporters are being spun total rubbish to cover up

I still cannot believe this was allowed to happen.

No, he didn't really say Yes, the ending was intriguing to be honest.

Would we go to the AFL for assistance outside/inside of the soft cap? ANd would the AFL provide it? Also there must be clauses in the contract, doubt we'd have to pay him 2 x $500,000 like suggested. Maybe 50% of that on mutual agreement? Who knows.

He did get the wobbly boots on big time at the end re Goodwin next year. Surely he was expecting that question lol

Does Pert actually watch the games? It seems not.

Um no, we will still find a way to break that record this year!

So we've had 3 more days break and 1 less day of travel v opponents? Not so bad afterall eh. Also, 3 x 4day breaks for us vs 4 for our opponents. No excuse! Plus 2 of the opponents 4 day breaks have been when we've had 6.

I'd like to think that our President, if and when approached, would answer tough questions and not run for the hills though.

How many years had Fagan done his apprenticeship for? I think young coaches get thrown in too quickly these days perhaps? There's really no way Simon couldve kept/overhauled our club culture as well as coach and develop, in that regard, I feel sorry for him.

We had won 4 out of the last 5 so we were in form. However I don't think we had been playing as well as people think, but found a way to win. I do get what you're saying and it's totally fair. But we have also ran out the last two games quite well physically, so I don't buy into the fatigue factor as much. We definitely lack confidence, I personally think this comes from the top (Goodwin). Anyway, we were still playing terribly early in the season without travel, so my lack of confidence in Simon stands. Thanks for proving facts and info, appreciated by all.

Thanks for this, nothing wrong with home truths at all. Wonder why Bartlett has gone silent and cannot be contacted?