Previously known as LITD.

Petty's marking has definitely improved

Viney is supreme with his tackling. Not just the number but they are rarely shaken. He and Max are still our best.

Let's get rid of the coach by a ten goal lead at three quarter time.

This is just triggering the pstd from last week.

Good to see Petty looking so lively.

Almost there at 38 points.

Without a ten goal buffer at three quarter time...eagles will sniff a win here. Then again records are made to be broken. Simon.must be nervous. If we lose today the noise for his head will get a lot louder.

Has a decent leap.

Yippee JC. Get around him.

Surely we could give Turner a trial up forward full time a for the rest of the year. With Petts or Roo to swap. Your going to coach yourself out of a job Simon.

Chin continues on from last week.

They certainly cost us a lot.

If only Roo could hold some.more marks He gets to the contest. Leaps and contests well but they just don't stick He's also a decent kick at goal. He's strong and athletic but this is a massive issue in his game and one that will probably see him go the way of Sam Weideman if he can't change it. On the otherhand if he does solve it he could be a very reliable forward. Not to the degree we were all hoping but a good one nonetheless. Here's still hoping. Petty with six touches and a goal has met his game quota in only a half and his best game for the year. But that's not exciting ,unfortunately . Just nice to say something positive about him for a change. Apart from the fact he's one of our best defenders. Max..still a superstar of the game.

You are correct with this statement. But I took that into account with these blokes who have the least. A good defender like Bowey averages just under 3 per game. The ones I mentioned have around one. I think our backline has gone backwards so to speak the last two years a part of it has been less chasing and tackling We don't seem to put opposition fwds under as much duress like we used too. It's something we have lacked up fwd this year with Fritta being a big offender. He's lifted a lot and it's impacted the rest of his game. It may seem like a small things but it's the basics that need to be done when your down. Look at the lack of forward pressure there was v saints in the last.

McVee, Salem and Howes simply don't apply anywhere near enough tackles. Every week Viney has more than those three combined.

Great stuff. Well and truly on track to have last week's record erased.

This except from the Age..... Legend says Demons coach could be axed after loss AFL great Matthew Lloyd says Demons coach Simon Goodwin could be sacked if Melbourne loses to West Coast in round 21. The story to come out of that record loss re saints has accelerated the questioning of SG tenure at the club. A loss v WC will really get the ball moving so to speak. For me the loss summarized the club beautifully. We can beat the lions at the Gabba. Not for some really poor umpiring v the pies we would have one. Our first quarter v the saints compared to our last is just the same. We are really good and really bad. We don't know which club will turn up. The saints game gave us our monies worth and we got both versions. Such variations are a coaching issue. Despite all the errors SG makes the extremes of performance are always the fault of the coach. He's now from and centre in the media and will eventually be sacked. Sonner then would be more beneficial. Or he could resign but they never seem too. Make the call now a MFC, so next year won't be as painful.

I hope our backline pulls it's finger out. Mcvee Tmac Turner Salem All four of these players combined had less than Bowey's total of five tackles. Mcvee and Tmac had zip. That's just not acceptable. Viney managed seventeen.

I've tried. Im struggling to get past Olivers kick where a measly point would have sealed it. But no he couldn't manage that. He does the strangest things. He was in tonnes of space and running when he decides to handball it to Spargo who has a saints playing sitting on him. Then by only sheer luck, Oliver gets the ball back and completely fluffs his kick on goal despite being only 20 m out. For a gun mid....C O hardly ever contributes to our goal tally. He averages only 0.2 goals a game or four a year. Yikes. But he disposal for the last two years has been woeful. He has gone into see ball get ball which he has always done very well to now just getting rid of ball ASAP regardless of where it goes.....ergo Spargo. Also who do we pin the six six six infringement upon. It never happens. So it especially should have happened in a game like this and when it did. I fear all the players felt this game slipping away from them like the Carlton final a few years ago. Ok the stakes were not as high but deep down I think they all felt that a massive result in huge comeback was brewing and they all started to panic. Why didn't they slow things down? Why did we up the tempo and fall into saints trap? Why are we still kicking at goal so poorly? The only positive will be a change of coach. There is something seriously wrong with this club and it's hard to pinpoint it. I'm afraid the worse thing that seems to stand out is that we are mentally soft. Hence our panicking. At our best we can beat the lions and almost the pies. At our best we can start like we did v the saints. That game showed both sides of us. At our worse we give up a 50 point lead in the last But seeing Melksham and KP on the bench in the last few minutes certainly was poor coaching and getting rid of Goody ist least a start.

If Goody's tenure is still intact after that disgraceful record than I'm not sure any change is possible. And this is as constructive as it gets. Surely it starts with a new coach. Then we sort out our list. Then our style of footy. We establish a decent ground for training and more social opportunities for.members. More games outside of the constant Sundays. More pushback to the AFL. Less games at Kardinia. No more NT games where nobody supports us anyway. No more tolerance of umpiring like the pies games. Fighting back on inconsistent bans on players. Sacking everyone remotely involved in our goal kicking coaching. More drive and incentives to lure more members. As the club named after the city we should be first choice for new supporters coming to the city and or sport. More family friendly environments at the ground. I'm sick of abusive and dodgy cwood supporters intimidating people. One should find footy a safe place to be. Alas , . this is drifting of course but it's still relevant. Finally, letters like the one posted here from Brad Green should be questioned. It wasn't a genuine letter expressing concern about performance. It appeared to be a veiled reprimand and warning about inappropriate comments towards the Coach. And while of course no threats are appropriate, they are a totally separate issue. By all means call them out but not in the same letter about the clubs super poor efforts. Thank you Mr Green for chastising the psycho making threats but where's the letter solely about the worst game of footy for decades? Until that comes, I doubt the club is really bothered. And that's been an issue for a while now. No wonder it's been so long between flags. If you want constructive criticism....you've come to wrong club brother. Its been given for three years and ignored. No ....now is the time to vote with our wallets before we are staring down another fifty years death of success.

Seeing Melksham and Kozzie on the bench when the game was being taken from us was a sight we should never have seen. What was Goody thinking? We have paid a fortune for KP and rightly so. Bit to have him on the bench at all after St Kilda did a bang bang bang was a total brain fade by the coach. He was clearly a good coach in years gone by. In fact a great coach. But something has changed. I don't want to be too negative after some psychopath has made online threats but the club must start to consider replacing him after all this . It started as soon as we won a flag. We didn't replace lost fwds.or ruckd Smith. Jackson. Tmac( moved to defence) Hannan. Pederson. Hogan. Grundy. Nup. We had two of the best rucks about to now having to use Roo or Petty now. And we have done nothing for four years to amend our woeful goal kicking. We didn't play Grundy in finals. We had a four game kid in Laurie as the sub for Gus. Hardly Like for like and that selection alone cost us a flag. And when he does intitiate a change, it's always too little and too late. On Sunday after Fritta had stopped I called for KP to be isolated ff. Instead he was benched. Good heavens. Where do I get a job like this? No performance standards and heaps of cash.

Id take anything for Sparrow. In fact I'd pay whatever to have him move on.

Good point about banning people who make threats. They don't belong anywhere near any footy ground. Well done.

, I find it a waste of time to concentrate on the final few moments when utter confusion reigned. Forget the 6-6-6 mess, the failure to mark the most dangerous man on the field, the inability to seal the game when opportunities presented themselves to Clayton Oliver, Harry Petty and Charlie Spargo, the vision of match winning players of recent weeks in Kozzy Pickett and Jake Melksham spending helpless minutes on the interchange bench and the powerlessness of seizing the opportunity to slow the tempo of the game down in those final moments. I was trying to forget all this.

If Oliver and Tracc want to leave I would let them. But we play hard ball. As for Goody and the payout, given the prediction of support dropping off and games won, it will be worth paying it. Anyone who leaves Petty in the same position for two years needs to go a year ago. Just saying.