John Demonic

9 hours ago, maximum bob said:

My modus operandum for watching Melbourne matches live to air so far this year. Turn the TV on but it's sound off and you can't see it without turning around from a laptop set up in the "sports room" as my other half calls it. Follow the updated scores on the regular AFL site occasionally and nervously. Turn up sound when we get lucky and quickly switch back to TV again. We get in front or even remotely mount a challenge... Cough loudly as I sneak another bottle of whatever's available into the front room and hope for the best. Getting flogged..you can guess the rest.

I watch on delay, so My MO is to skip ahead/fast forward when i get the sense the opposition is about to get a run on with my eye on the scoreboard changes to confirm. Rewind when we score a goal to see it. Then continue. I pretty much skipped over the entire 2nd half last week. Which saves me an hour of my life.

10 hours ago, Sydee said:

I hope Sg and the whole team sit down and watch Jimmy Bartels summary of where things are going wrong in Access all Areas. 

To be honest, never watch them and only did because I was interested in the highlights of McKay - oh how I wish Weideman was showing as much promise 

Anyway I think these guys nailed it 

As a collective team we simply allow opposition players too much space and basically hope somehow to win back possession and then get the easy possession on the turnover - teams with half decent skills have worked it out and cut us to ribbons - North play a similar game style and are cr@p too. We need to try manning up a lot closer and stop playing zone defence because it just isn't working

The other points highlighted were that we constantly commit too many numbers around a contest and then when the ball gets free the opposition have players free and away they go

Our forward fifty entries are abysmal - high kicks sitting on top of our taller forwards heads which make it dead easy to spoil - worse is that fact we don't have crumbers and invariably the opposition do and clear the ball far too easily - this is shown up week after week by our disproportionate inside 50 count but terrible conversion rate 

Until we start dealing with these issues we are in for some ugly defeats 

These are the reasons we are dead easy to play against and it needs to stop now !  

Nothing is going to change. Just listen to our captains given reason for our form:

“We want to play hard footy and we want to win. We’re not doing that and as a result we’re not winning, so we’ve got to change that.”

Crack in harder and everything will be ok apparently.

19 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Bottom line is we have a game tomorrow night, everything seems against us and it would be some sort of win if we can do it. As frustrating as it is right now, I don’t think many on here are going anywhere. 

Even though i've mocked the captain for condensing all of what i perceive as gameplan issues against fast teams down to 'hardness' - we're lucky in that we're coming up against Richmond, the 2017/18 style measuring stick. where hardness and extraordinary effort might actually be the defining characteristic of matching the Tigers and winning tomorrow. I just hope our forwards and mids defend the ground ball/rebound in the forward line with their life ie with hardness! A gritty win will alleviate some of these sorrows at least for a week.

What would be totally ironic would be if RIchmond, sensing that our club has been waiting for a year to redeem ourselves since last years chaosball championship , adopt the framework layed by others ie WCE control/possession and spread game style and beat us that way.

“We want to play hard footy and we want to win. We’re not doing that and as a result we’re not winning, so we’ve got to change that.”

Why are you blokes rattling on about prelim reviews and gameplans? It's only about hardness apparently according to our captain Hodge Junior.

I call it an afternoon snack and a big dinner 2-3 hours later with Coffee and tea (no milk) all morning and early afternoon. Most people do it on a busy day.

2020 starts in round 23 with Spoonbowl. Front row tickets to the Ben Brown Show. C'mon Benny!

4 hours ago, DemonOX said:

And the good news just keeps on coming. 

Hopefully we can snare a speedy player with pic 1 

Rowell, Rowell
Rowell, Rowell
Born is the King of Melbourne FC!

 

10 hours ago, rjay said:

 

Yep, I'm serious about Carlton 'A F'...I think their midfield is only going to get better with Walsh and I really rate Petrevski-Seton...they need to get a quality ruck, that's the only hole they have. Kruz is old and injury prone, can't rely on him.

As you say their spine looks pretty good. The future is bright for the Blues...

Will give you my thoughts on our list later this eve when I have some time to put into it.

We've never really been far ahead of them for very long, if you cast your mind back to a r22(?) game in 2016 at the MCG with finals chances on the line and their midfield rolling us. And then the following year they were quite disciplined with their press and worryingly lead us deep into the third before Lewis and Hogan threw a few punches, took them off their game before we ran away with it. We really kicked into gear in the following matches as we learnt how to beat up on weaker teams, but that standard was only shortlived it now seems.

My post match analysis is that there should be an entertaining month of NBA playoffs ahead. However every time a team gets a fast break from a shitty offensive pass, ill be reminded of Dean Kent and our gameplan ?

On 4/20/2019 at 1:00 PM, one_demon said:

You can't say we should of got five free kicks, twenty metres out, because if the first free kick is paid, then the future takes on a different path from that point onwards.

 

4 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Round 23 2017 - the day the Collingwood footy club went past the MFC.

... went past and lapped us.

20 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

It’s ridiculous. The kid should ask to be traded. He is being crucified.  Gets a game. Looks okay then dropped. Spargo was horrible and yet is named again. Ridiculous.  

Maybe he won't make it at another club, and is better off and content with being handy depth when the coach requires it. Why can't players make a career of providing 5-10 games of injury cover per year while making the VFL side strong with consistent performances? Every club needs their Brendan Whitecrosses of this world

39 minutes ago, BAMF said:

His reported contract is 10 million over 10 years.

Under your scenario... 

2013-2017 : 5 x 1.1million = $5,500,000 

2017-2020: 3 x 1.2million = $3,600,000

Total = $9.1million

So yeah, in hindsight not too bad. But you only have him contracted till 2020 when you could reduce it right down or more likely let him retire. Plus you would much prefer this option as a club when signing as you get to renegotiate in 2017. 

The AFL advised at the time of the trade that Buddy's salary would stay in the salary cap even if he retires prematurely (which they will probably go against). If he is forced to retire at the end of this year (as you say unlikely but possible), he will be chewing over a million per year for the next three years. That's huge.

Sydney have been lucky that he has been able to produce at such a high level for so long. It really could have been a lot worse. They took a punt and it has largely paid off, but it was outrageous at the time.

Buddy started with Sydney in 2014, not sure if your figures take that into account?

4 hours ago, DubDee said:

Best guess:

jetta and Lewis in for Josh Wagner and Spargo

goody doesn’t trust Jeff I reckon  so I wonder if he will put him in based on one good game. 

Fritsch to play fwd 

Whether he can back up that game with a string of good games or a month of mostly good footy, will probably be a better determinant of how the rest of his career will go if he's given senior recall. If that's too hard an ask for him, then Goody is probably on to something. Recall after 1 good game is almost welcoming the same pattern as before.

We should've hired Wallace as a consultant and flooded the 2000 granny. ?

6 hours ago, DV8 said:

???   a Rodney Grinter ?

C camp ?

It's lower risk to chip it around holding a lead taking time off the clock, than to kick a goal and run the higher risk of the 6/6/6 reset giving the other team momentum and repeated 6/6/6 bounces. That is why I think low scores and possession footy. Its a mockery.

Just wait until a team gives away a zone free kick deliberately against momentum, to avoid a deep inside 50 entry from great tap work and streaming forward clearances. Because a ruckman taking a free kick from the centre and bombing it into 50 even with 6/6/6 zones is a preferable entry/result.

Donald Duck has been captaining Geelong for years

9 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Nasher, you shouldnt have to explain yourself in regards to Jetta. But i also understand why you had to.. ?‍♂️

Jetta is simply locked and loaded in our best 22. He is also our Vice captain and when on song he's one of our best one on one defenders. St Kilda forwards have a mix of small forwards that run through there, Billings Lonie Gresham etc. Gresham is the one i want Jetta locking down on.

You actually should have to question team selections based on players form.

9 hours ago, Nasher said:

 

Jetta was injured, hence the form.

Surely it’s beyond question that a non-injured Jetta plays seniors. I can’t see any sensible scenario where Jetta plays at Casey.

If he was carrying an injury, well then that explains a lot. However the "Beyond question" aspect of team selection needs to be dialled back a touch. Players get old and their abilities start waning. You can expect this to occur for Jetta soon enough. He isn't having as big an impact as he was in 2017 and started last year poorly too. To his credit he had a big 2nd half last year. 

Questioning is fine, people in here do it to Lewis ad nauseum. Questioning, especially if players like Hore, Wagner & Petty make a bigger impact in the seniors as time goes on should be fine. I'm not writing him off, but if he has a poor patch of form in the next month, other players deserve a go too.

6 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

No change make Lewis and Jetta play in the 2's

While I think Lewis deserves to be straight in due to his experience in aiding structure on the G, I too question whether Jetta should come straight back in given he was out of form in the first 3 games and I read somewhere he was losing 50% contests. There should be no favourites. Good call.

Edit: Having said that we might need him to play on Gresham as he's a gun and Jets might thrive on locking down a quality small fwd.

18 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Speaking of honesty, did anyone see Jack Viney presser the other day!? [censored] hell one of the most cringeworthy interview i have ever seen.

Stop talking [censored] Jack and just let your footy do the talking... ??

No, but i'm guessing he talked about taking it one week at a time a lot?

3 minutes ago, DaveyJones'sLocker said:

I have I agree with others the side we are putting out is rubbish, sadly other quality sides seem to manage when they have a few outs. I still think we can win, but I thought we should have beat Essendon comfortably last week.  

Thank god dean towers got delisted last year, I wonder which average player is going to destroy us tonight ? 

Sam Reid

Good luck Big Fella!

10 hours ago, TGR said:

I have no idea if this guy will make 50 games; haven't seen him play.

You can talk about hindsight, but I will just refer to list-clogging.  Who has clogged the list in the past 2-3 years that have prevented us from pushing up a project player.  We persevered with Spencer for too long and Clarko also sold us a 'pasties' .

You really try and shoehorn your anti-Lewis rhetoric into almost every topic and have particularly doubled down this week in the face of hard evidence (0-7) to the contrary. It reeks of desperation.

Zak Jones had a BOG game last week with 31pos and 7 clearances, Maybe throwing his brother on him for a hard tag could liven things up with a bit of bite and reinvigorate him for this weeks game at least.