John Demonic

If Hogan commits for 5+ years, and another player doesn't. We're still in the same position as we are now, only we're probably more likely to get high draft picks that we can use to set us up with a gun for the 5-10 years after this window, or to immediately fill the gap left by the player through trade or FA Maybe the lofty goal of all players buying in and taking paycuts like other clubs, is an attainable goal too? Josh Kelly and Dustin Martin aren't wearing blue and white next year. (And neither is Tom Lynch)

Do we know clearly what the Steven May situation is with Gold Coast if we don't sign him this year? Are the rumours true about him touring Bulldog facilities? Is staying for one year untenable for him personally or the club? (not that they have any say) - is he willing to wait a year to become a demon? A Hogan committed for 5 years, and a freely acquired Steven May committed from 2020-2024 is the best situation here, so maybe the club should just put that lofty target in their sights and make it happen over the next 12 months.

Thankful to have a safe-space away from Freo fans here on demonland. Just reading the rumours on reddits AFL page and bigfooty does my head in. I'm going to have to avoid them like the plague until trade week is over.

They traded pick 6 away to Port just to spite us and force us to accept 11+23 imo. Also to get Lobbe of course, but then they screwed him too and offered it to Tim Kelly. Doesnt make much sense to offer us 5 after all of that

Would have to be a player of good potential and quality. If we ruthlessly wanted to address a defensive deficiency then perhaps a particular midfielder or half fwd/mid would have to be in the deal. We already traded Tyson so I just don't see us taking one more out of the middle.

Adelaide got back Carltons 2nd and 3rd rounds this year. i think 21+39

It would look like podiatryland.com/forum with every man and his dog giving an expert diagnosis on how they dodged a bullet, i'm guessing.

Let's be super positive. Maybe 6/6/6 and the hands in the back rule being withdrawn will turn defenders into pedestrians that get scored heavily on no matter how good they are. Having a jacked forward line might be the best bet next year.

It makes both parties look stupid imo. Funny how no one has mentioned that despite the whole forum being against 5+23 an hour ago.

How do we get this done? We have his non public nomination on our side to get this done. 2019 first round pick + Sam Frost.

The only issue was Lobbe. Freo want Lobb and i dare say pick 11-20 will get it done, currently they're rejecting 5+23 from Bris. My idea is simply to leave Freo pick 11, we take Bris 5 + 2019 first round pick, they get Neale + The pick/player that gives them fair value for losing a 2019 1st round. Bris would back themselves to finish with pick 8-10 anyway with Neale on board.

They'd be reticent to do that, knowing we're getting a pick to get Steven May and then looking at being a premiership favourite. That's Pick 19 or 20, not 15. And without Neale, an injury to Fyfe or Sandi has that being potentially pick 1,2 or 3.

Is there a way for us to get Brisbane's #5 AND 2019 first round pick (5-8) so Freo can send them neale, and we can then send Hogan? Which player and pick could we send to Brisbane? I'd much rather us take a pick 5 into the draft AND get Steven May. The goalposts don't have to shift from our initial request of pick 5 & 6. Especially not to 5+23+30 pick etc

I'm thinking Brisbane are on the losing end of the stick, so i edited in our 2nd round pick of 38*? to them Getting pick 5 + potentially pick 5-8 next year and losing Hogan, 38 and Hunt seems about right. Not too sure about Freo really. They get Hogan and Lobbe. Success.

Just to add a post from the rumour file in regards to jayden hunt in brisbane (probably [censored]) - was thinking earlier about sending something to Brisbane to get the Neale trade done for overs. MFC In: Bris pick 5, Bris 2019 1st round Pick./ Out: Hogan, 2nd or 3rd round pick* Freo In: Hogan, Lobb. / Out: Neale, Pick 11 Bris In: Neale, Hunt. MFC 2nd or 3rd round pick / Out Pick 5, 2019 first round pick GWS In Pick 11. / Out Lobb Edit: Might seem like overs, but Freo want more for Neale than Bris have. They want 5+15, not 5+23. Bris now give overs for Neale but get back a player and pick

What happened to the 9news grab that hinted at another club throwing their hat in the right?

Yeah, fits perfect. A hat tip to Mark Jamar and his work with Gawny, and also "Preuss or Preuß is a German surname derived from Preussen, the German word for Prussia"

THE BIG PRUSSIAN

Trade Radio. "May just waiting for the deal to happen now, wants to be at MFC. Shopping for houses in Melbourne" I know it's probably well known, but it's nice to hear it spoken of as just about a done deal, and not that he will re-sign with GCS if the offer isn't good enough from us.

It's more of a 'girlfriend doesnt want to commit to marriage, therefore i'll let her see some other guys for a few weeks and then decide on marriage with me or breaking up ' type of arrangement ?

I know nothing about Dom Sheed, save that people said Gaffs suspension opened the door for him. So he doesn't sound like he has much value.

Yes. It's possible to be on the bottom of the ladder, and handle a situation well. It's also possible to be 2nd on the ladder and handle a players last year poorly, Look at Adelaide with Lever. You think it will be unprofessional like that? Players rumoured to have been ignoring him, half time grand final arguments and the club not inviting him to b& f.

I stick em in the freezer and then proceed to walk back and forth to the kitchen every 30 minutes for one!

If Carlton players can accept and deal with Gibbs being out the door in a year, i'm sure demon players can too. Assuming Hogan goes all in with that final year and pumps his value, it's a win win.

The key to it making sense is understanding that you left 'what might be' out of your sentence. It's all speculative right now isn't it?