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Guess the odds are in favour by now

Think Fullarton will be in - hoping to rest Gawn if the game allows.

Rewarding the player that doesn’t go after the ball. The Geel player slowed and threw his arms out, instead of chasing to tackle. Poor sportsmanship and poor decision imv.

And Brad Scott called them out on it. As did Clarkson.

You are absolutely correct Red. I think I blocked that passage from memory. That was a horrible decision. It was the last qtr dropped mark on the wing, that was perhaps a 50/50 call, I was thinking of.

Glad the president exists ! Totally agree about the May mark. But I don’t think that ended as a goal? I think it was Joe D who missed from only about 30m out.

Agree with this. It was just a bit awkward the way he tapped the ball as he landed. His instinct was to play too defensively, as was the whole team the entire qtr. That’s a problem for Goody. I actually think he’s a good coach, getting better every year. To me, he relies too much on system (a defensive first system) and sometimes you have to back the players ability and instincts to attack. He needs to back the individual, especially at the end of games when the system breaks down from uneven fatigue. But regarding the umpires, Goody’s not someone with media authority. Some coaches will say that “umpiring is a tough job, but that was a tough call with a minute left”. That sets off the media as a talking point for the weekend. I believe the umpires are trying to be fair, but there’s a human nature to see a champion team/player and give the benefit of the doubt. We don’t have that. We’re instead the team that’s always made an example of. The past week it was May. That made me angry. Very angry to see him shamed. Goody isn’t the right person to speak up. But somebody at the club needs to. It can be done with respect, but without it we lose respect.

Most accurate yet

Umpiring disgrace. The entire way through. Disgusted. If this were a different club they’d be talking about it.

I think it’s genius selection plan - tall defence to more than combat their strength. With a flood defence cover for ground ball. Lots of space for Kossie to play huge. Can’t wait !

Perfect summation

Love this quote “stay in the team and win a premiership” He has a personality. Sure, needs to back it up, but I enjoy when they display some ambition and honesty.

Spot on. No doubt WC are holding out for us to trade with North. I’m guessing a leak of our offer for pick 3 comes out before the draft. And it’ll be a deal North will refuse. Maybe we’ll find a way to move up slightly. Geel or Hawthorn with our f1. Either way, I agree we’re more likely to benefit from a single elite pick than WC or North who need many to build.

I believe if WC trade to 2 the idea is they’d take Curtain. Leaves both Duursma and McKercher.

This would effectively be North giving 2 and 3 for 1. Don’t think they can do that. We’d have to give 6+11. Imagine we’d ask for 15 back as well. Which they won’t do. So if we get to draft night, what are the chances of WC accepting our offer? What compels us to deal with North before their pick 3?

This is maybe a brilliant strategy. We’ve put our best offer. North are low balling. Why our position is so smart imv, is that WC are naturally holding out for the best offer from North. The question is: what’s North’s best offer without us trading with them? I’d say it’s 2+15+17 for P1 Is that better than 6, 11, 42 and F1? Perhaps slightly but also depends on what players WC want and where they think they’ll fall. And I doubt North would give that up, given their huge delisting numbers. It’s a brilliant play because we’ve given WC our best offer. But we will have undoubtedly simultaneously made an offer for 3. This one however a low ball. I’d guess 6 + 11 for 3 + 15. North need our 6 and 11 to make the deal they want with WC. Which you’d assume is what everyone has floated here many times. But we’ve made the squeeze play. WC have our best offer, eventually North will stop low-balling and give them theirs. But we can squeeze, we can hold out on facilitating the 3 club swap. We can even hold until after WC make their No 1 selection before we budge on our swaps with North. If we want 3, wait to then. It’s smart.

In that order? You’d take Duursma over McKersher? I have no idea, but they seem the likely two we’d choose from. I also don’t mind holding 6 and 11. It seems a fairly even trade going to 3 and 18.

Wasn’t my suggestion. However, I think it highly likely this will happen, but with p17 or 18 also included from North. But the question is if McKercher or Duursma are worth it?

Agree Old. The hardball from us should be asking for North pick 17 or 18 as well. Which I think is possible, though I might be wearing my red and blues.

Except North will take our 6 & 11 for 3. Then trade 2 & 11 for 1.

No 2024 picks? I’m clearly misunderstanding this whole play. Why bother trading back for equivalent points in the same draft?

He’s a product of our culture. He’s been 4x b&f and one year ago signed a massive seven year deal. Was he a problem before all of this?? If he’s lost his way that’s the on our ‘great culture’ to correct. This is where it matters, it’s where the coaches matter. Where captains lead (Max is rumoured to be doing so). Make no mistake, this is a huge moment. You can’t name a single other player and club where this happens. Maybe G.Ablett Jr, but that was a very different set of circumstances. Dusty is a much better example, what happened there? What will happen here?

This seems like a poor analysis. Still can’t buy McKay compensation p3. Will not happen. But also don’t understand Gold Coast taking NM picks for p4. They’re not short on points. What they want, I’d assume, is a high F1. Trade Grundy +p24 for Syd F1. Then 13 + Syd F1 (plus some later picks) to GC for p4. That Bartel analysis is too basic. It’s always more complicated.

You’ll be walking. Frawley is the only vague comparison and the situation at that stage was insane. In no way comparable. Yes, we both lost a n1 draft recruit. But we then went through years of drafts that were extremely compromised. They’ve had top selections that are making an impact already. Frawley was a high draft selection (12) and was AA, etc… Then add to all this, he went to a powerhouse premiership team. That was the BIG PR problem. AFL House desperately needed to rebalance. And even then, it was all a stretch. Chris Scott is doing the good work at speaking out. Can’t stand him usually but suddenly he’s a genius. No chance of p3 for McKay. No way.

It seems the done deal is Grundy to Swans. Must be relatively simple if as agreed upon as it appears. Do we not even know what that trade is? Demonland intel is broken. I’ll pretend I know something… Grundy +p24 for p11 Oh. And no chance Nth get p3 for McKay, sets unworkable precedent.