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Agreed.

Brilliant work Tarax.

They have not risen from shite so quickly. They were building for several years but it has all come together over the past 12m

Looked unfit and overweight Daisy

This is an increasingly common view.. For me, my anticipation and enjoyment of the game is tempered by my anxiety and anger over the umpiring. Not just because we seem to be on the receiving end, but how this frustration is ruining the enjoyment of the contest. There is the general issue of the umpiring approach on the day, as it seems to vary match by match, but it also comes down to umpiring competency or the lack of it and the avoidance of any common sense. However, the 50 m penalty is doing my head in as it has such a profound impact on the game and mitigates against the enjoyment of two sides battling it out (without whole passages of the game being influenced and stopped by the umpires whistle). .

Now I am accustomed the blame game post match but this takes the blame game to a new level.

The umpiring and the 50m penalties being handed out on a platter are just disgraceful, non sensical and ruining the game. The umpires appear clueless and handing out penalties contrary to common sense and fair play. Just disgraceful and a blight on the game.

Really good selections.

Thanks for taking me seriously Tarax.

Tough on Petty, but he had to go. The selectors should apologize to the boy for his original selection and tell him that he is not suited to the ground or weather conditions. Any lie will do. He needs support and encouragement.

If not, he should fair dinkum go on strike and request an immediate transfer.

Just for a change ! Could try total silence, now that would be a change. Fortunately, a win coming up to temper the mood.

Wishful thinking, it was said partly in jest

Becoming childish. Let it go through to the keeper Lets hope we win on the weekend. If we have a few wins, the bickering will stop.

A great player. One of a group of Hawks champs that contributed to their great success and could turn matches. It is not just the magic goal or mark but the impact on the whole team. He may not have got most possessions or goals but how he did it and when he did it was at times pivotal. He also caused confusion to the opponent with defenders being led a merry dance. His presence gave opportunities to others. Sensible decision to retire. Recent seasons we have seen Cyril drop off due to motivation, injury and fitness. He had definitely lost a yard.

not sold on the coach or the need for balance ? are you pedantic or a man who knows his mind ?. or maybe I have missed your point completely, something that I do all the time. I read so many posts and I scratch my head in wonder over the depth of analysis and detail. I think well, it cant be that complicated, its only a game of footy. In the good old days, we would go along and watch the game, buy a copy of the Herald post match, read Alf Brown's reports of the game, maybe buy a copy of Sporting Globe, watch Pelaco Inquest or World of Sport (depending on whether you won or lost), listen to one of the doyens of the game, agree or disagree on the 3 votes, and forget about the game until League Teams on Thursday night. Those great men of the game who have gone to footy heaven would shake their skulls in wonder and roll over.the other way.

Could be a good thing or a bad thing OD. Breathe of fresh air with a person that has no allegiances and doesn't buy into past myths, stories and accepted ways of doing things or someone who comes in to make his mark and creates distraction, disruption and disharmony. However, we know that there is no good outcome without success on the field. And for that we need, top notch players, a top notch team and a top notch coach. . All these things must be in balance.

Spot on Norm. As they say, its not rocket science. You can see what the problems are by going to a match and by observation. Most Demon watchers don't need statistics and complex analysis to see what is happening. Opposition coaches must love us. We make their job so simple. Its all so bleeding obvious, unfortunately, the solutions are not.

Can't imagine what the problem could be Febes. Do you? Perhaps they went to the game on Sun. Perhaps they had to spend an embarrassing few hours with expectant sponsors. Perhaps they prefer to be roosters rather than feather dusters. . Perhaps Simon is not talking to them. Perhaps they are actually passionate Demon supporters.

It’s called letting off steam.

Like others, media talk is a big yawn. Just talk only talk. Of course, Lewis has to say something and this is sending the right message to fans but I suspect most fans turned off long ago. Actions speak louder than words and I am afraid we have heard it all before time and time again. Like a broken record. We all hear the words and rock up to the next game to see that nothing has changed. The only difference is that this time, Simon has been Un-Goodwin like and reacted angrily. Now it may be what we think should happen but it is not typical. So I think this is a positive thing as sometimes you need to react emotionally for players to get the message. Have we got the cattle on the park to heed the coaches message and turn it around? We need every individual player to lift and for some magic to happen. Time will tell. The Dees season is at the crossroads.

Fair comment Wise. The biggest hole in our defence was Petty. He was not able to do even the basic negating role, let alone provide any support for others. OM was generally not to bad but at times he looks completely exposed both in the air and on the ground. When the ball comes directly to him one on one, he's generally not too bad and at least gives a 50/50 chance of stopping his opponent marking. However, he still lacks intensity and ferocity at the ball and his opponent. Lever had that in spades. He also had great speed getting to a contest and great intercept ability. We miss that so much. As soon as the opposition move the ball into their forward half quickly our defence inspires no confidence and looks completely exposed as if they have their feet in sand (excluding Jetta). So what to do ? There appears no solution other than to try make the most of a bad situation. Frost must be tried and given some continuity of games. He has height, pace and ability to rebound. He has deficiencies as we all know but so do the other defenders currently in the side. He brings something that we lack. We need to move or drop Lewis who is slow and a complete liability with ball in hand. Reluctantly, I think we need to consider moving TMac back to CHB. I know, I know but we need to do something, as the shambles of our backline allows our opponent to salivate with unbridled relish and indulge in the most hedonistic picnic imaginable. I know nothing about Keilty but unless he has some toe and can do the basic things well, I would not pick him.

I hope you are right. You would hope and expect that Goodwin would have an open door policy and that communication is two way. At the same time, the coach /Goodwin has the responsibility and should have the initiative to regularly engage with every player on the list to ensure that there is clarity on expectations and footy behaviours and to listen to any questions or concerns from the player. Players need to know where they stand.

And scary to think not only what would have happened against the Saints without Max but what would happen for the rest of the season if he went down. On Sunday, it was as close to a one man team as you could get.