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I didn't see all of that game, but I did hear Riewoldt interviewed after the game and he said Collingwood had been the toughest team they'd played, or words to that effect. Hardwicke said the scoreboard flattered them and that it was really a 3-4 goal game. He said Collingwood out-pressured them, which led to them having 90 uncontested marks. So while the games may seem similar with a similar result, they were played in a different fashion and I sense Collingwood had Richmond's measure in aspects of the game that we didn't.

He's definitely the mister fixit of the team, so I'm sure I'll get to have heart palpitations soon.

Haven't seen you in a while, Biff. Have you been on an enforced sabbatical ?

They virtually always look after the player with the larger body of work.

He is so much better forward. I cringe when he's down back and feel utterly at ease when he's forward. And the guy has this knack of the ball following him, which is great when he's in the forward 50 and stuff of nightmares when he's in the defensive 50..

The omission will be out of Weideman or Neal-Bullen. It will depend on the structure they want to run with. I'm very much liking Weideman's progression and reckon he'll make it, so I like the idea of continuing to get games into him. It won't harm Neil-Bullen going back and getting some confidence.

And one of the two will only get better. If you had a chance would you trade 27 year old Tiptoes for 21 year old Fritsch ?

There are 21 threads on Demonland's main page. There are 12 I've never opened. No-one is forcing you to keep coming back to this thread.

The second half is the best we've played since last year. We will continue to build through the year.

Tiptoes almost looks like he's gone backwards. If that were possible.

Hawthorn who were thrashed by North ? And were bog ordinary against St Kilda ? Yeah, top side. Adelaide who were pantsed by Collingwood at home ? Yeah, top side. Sydney who have lost twice at home to Adelaide sides ? Yeah, top side. West Coast, who beat Carlton at the G by 10 points ? Yeah, top side. Other than Richmond, who don't scare me, there are no top sides.

Can you name these "top sides" for me ?

Theoretically it should help if he's out, however, as shown yesterday at the Cattery with Buddy out there are no guarantees. I remember one of our great wins was against West Coast in Perth with a depleted side. Some of our best wins have been sans Hogan, because we had to use the ball differently entering our 50.

You do realise you're wasting your time.

So you mean either players are out of form, or your expectations haven't been met ?

I'm feeling very pragmatic about today. You get what you deserve in footy. If we play to our ability we'll win. If we lose I won't let the result control my emotions. I won't be joining the plethora of senile old clueless posters, who regularly carry on like outraged victims.

Compared to who ? Name the clubs with greater depth and list the players you like who can't get in their best 22.

He's shown how weak Obama and Bush were. It will be one of his great legacies.

Lever will be a star and we're lucky to have him.

It's funny. When you get a notification that an 'Old Bear' has quoted you your first instincts are, "This won't be good". It's amazing how often they're right.

That does not compute.

Seeing it's been confirmed he's playing I suspect he'll probably play.

As for Pedersen, anyone with a clue knows he's not an AFL quality key forward, which is why he keeps being left out. He's very serviceable in the pinch hit ruck role where he can follow the ball around the ground and play as a ruck rover, but obviously there's presently no role for that. Weideman was good in his first game back after a long lay off. He's bigger, he moved far better, which suggests his ankle issues are over, he was aggressive with his tackling (5), and he's very smart with his ball use. It's a no brainer to play Weideman ahead of Pedersen. I almost hope we lose on Sunday. Some heads on Demonland could literally explode. I'd kind of like to see that.

Seeing it's been confirmed that he will play I suspect he'll probably play.