Bearthor

what do you all think about Melbourne trading M.Clark & pick 23 for Geelong pick 14. gives us either a much better bargaining chip for other trades or access to higher level talent. ie. ontrade pick 14 and 3 to Adelaide for P.Dangerfield while keeping pick 2 for the beast McCartin

Collingwood trade Lumumba and mid second round pick to North Melbourne for pick 15 Dees trade Picks 3, early second Rd'er & Mitch Clark to Collingwood for now Collingwoods pick 15 Adelaide trade Dangerfield and pick 10 to Melbourne Melbourne then send Picks 2 and 15 back to Adelaide Collingwood trade early 2nd Rd'er from Dees & Beams to Brisbane for Aish Collingwood ontrade Aish to Adelaide North Melbourne: Lose - Pick 15 > gain mid 2nd Rd'er & Lumumbaa Adelaide: Lose - pick 10 & Dangerfiled > gain picks 2, 15 & Aish. Brisbane: Lose - Aish > gain early 2nd Rd'er & Beams Collingwood: Lose - Pick mid 2nd Rd'er, Beams & Lumumbaa >gain Picks 3 & Clark Melbourne: Lose - Picks 2, 3, early 2nd Rd'er & Clark > gain Picks 10, 15 & Dangerfield. I think this is fair for all and also allows for the Dees to then ontrade picks 10 or 15 in other trades

Watts shows no heart, he had a bigger smile on his face than the hawthorn players. After a performance like that just shake hands and get your gutless butt down the tunnel. Talent isn't the issue it's will and mongrel. the skill errors are coming about because they are putting each other under pressure by not doing the 1%er's and working for each other. The job of many being done by only a few!

PP + Watts should get something to the club