KingDingAling

6 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Confession time. 3 minutes to go I got up and said "we're done, we can't do it from here. We've lost all our close ones this year". Well, bugger me.

That was as close to a final as you will get. Not a great spectacle, but as tough as hell. Both sides will be very sore over the next 2 days. 

Delighted, shocked, annoyed, Exhiirated. 

I did that with 14 minutes to go and turned it back on with 30 seconds to go.

Much needed goal. If we get the first after the break it could open up for us.

One dimensional. Teams worked us out long ago now. Too late to implement a different game plan or get in good coaching now. Wasted year.

Grundy Is finished. Injury is apparently worse than broadcast. I know a guy, same guy who said Dawes was finished after Collingwood -due to a finger. He said Grundy is done. How reliable is he? I don’t know but he said Dawes was done after Collingwood due to a finger and Dawes proceeded to play like he had wooden hands at our club.

10 minutes ago, SA Red n Blue said:

Glad he got let off as the game & the fans have gone softer than that other round ball football code these days. Always reward a player going for the ball & he jumped to go for the ball. Wish there was more of it & also wish they let a defender wrap a forward around the ears when going for a mark, earn your kicks.

The while concussion thing is garbage, you sign up to play a contact sport & there should be no legal case for compensation down the track.

You sign up no problems. The AFL still have that duty of care to the players. The AFL make the rules. Up until quite recently they’ve made rules which incentivize head high contact. Clearly they don’t care. Both my young lads played state under 16s footy and I pulled them out and give them the option to play other sports. Any parent who cares for the long term well being of their child would be silly to push them into football. I did and hoped it would change. Silly silly. 

I backed the saints and I went in confident. 

6 hours ago, von said:

The strange thing is with all of this I kind of agree that he shouldnt get suspended if it was judged he was playing the ball and had no intent to make a hit, If that’s the judgement, which you could argue against too. 
 

however, I would love the afl to move toward intent rather than outcome as it seems far less complicated. It does however mean some concussions, like this one, will go unpunished. 

It’s how Cripps always attacks the footy which is flawed. He attacks it with little care for his opponent. I guess that’s fine. But I’d have thought in an era where the AFL have to be at least seen to be trying - to protect the head - that Cripps would’ve copped the two weeks. This incident won’t make me pity the AFL when the lawsuits come piling in down the track. As soon as players can get CTE accurately diagnosed In living players it’s a wrap, and this case is the perfect precedent for any player. I love MFC, but I’d like to see the AFL completely fold due to not having a safety of care for the players. League can start again under another form, but this organization is corrupt at its core. 

We don’t really have much luck. Cripps should be out. Elliot shouldn’t have been given frees in front of goals against Collingwood. Eugle Hagen plays his only decent game of his AFL career and luck would have it - it’s against us. I’ve about had it.

1 minute ago, DeeZee said:

The message from the AFL is that

The head is not sacrosanct 

Cannot wait till the court cases come piling in.

Cripps gets off

Use the Jackson picks to fill up on some talent. Leave Grundy alone. We already have a great ruckman we cannot utilize properly. 

1 hour ago, COVID Dan said:

The only reason we stopped Freo was because it was raining.

Freo were able to stop and beat up the Dogs, we couldn't.

We couldn't stop teh Pies, Cats, Swans, Dogs and have been overrun by Freo including being dominated in 2nd halfs.

Facts are we were the nest team in teh 2nd half, now we are not.

It is not world ending, but I can't see us being there on teh last day, defense won't win flags in 2022.

We just need to focus on next week now. I don’t think we are up to the sides you mentioned. But I do believe we are up to winning our next two games. If we can do that, we would be well positioned to play our own game, which we know is conducive to finals pressure.

1 hour ago, Watson11 said:

I’m still dumbfounded that we lost last night, and thought I would bump this.  My opinion is our coaches are getting it horribly wrong this year and I’m not sure why.  Especially against Collingwood that are an ordinary team (watch Sydney pull them apart next week).

We seem to have made a conscious tactic to let sides have space in our inside 50 and we drop back to try and apply a zone.  I think it’s confusing players who are caught in 2 mindsets ie do I pressure or zone back. For kickins it just hasn’t worked either. Collingwood had zero chance last night if we apply forward half pressure.  They lose the territory battle every week, even against bottom teams (their last nine wins are against us twice and 7 of the bottom 8 by an average of 6 points), yet we made it easy for them. Longmire is too astute to allow them to do that against Sydney.

We obviously had 65 i50s to 41, and shots at goal from 45% of our i50s is not too bad. But they scored from 56% of i50s with reminded me of 2018/19 when sides just transitioned too easily.  It’s a complete reversal from last year.

The disposal efficiency stats tell the story.  Their defenders had 8 out of their 9 highest efficiency ratings. They just weren’t pressured.

This has been a tactic all year, and has seen us continually picked apart since Hawthorn exposed it. Freo didn’t do it last week which was a surprise and they paid for it. The question is whether our problems are really this simple, and if they are why doesn’t the coaching group change it up.

I actually think we will win the flag if we make this tactical tweak. 
 

If McRae coaches us last night we walk away with a handy 10 goal win. Coaching is obviously a very important factor, as we see with the Pies. 

Can’t win it this year. We aren’t well coached, and are too predictable. Teams have worked us out, and our conversion rate inside 50 continues to be poor. We never worked out our synergy between mid and forward, and it’s pretty much sunk our season. Apart from a purple patch last year, which we were fortunate to all witness. It’s much the same from Melbourne. Long way off the well coached sides IMO.

14 minutes ago, Blue-and-red said:

Is Melbourne guilty of the same problem but we don’t want to admit it, particularly as a coaching group….we play one way and one way only and can’t, or won’t adjust when we need to

We are known as a team that overuses the ball, is vulnerable to pressure and is heavily  reliant on defence, particularly intercept marking, which when we come up against well coached and capable teams we eventually fall over - we have some very skilled players but our tactical planning and execution is letting us down

We are poorly coached. Just fortunate we had a purple patch last year. Collingwood shown us tonight what happens when you convert your chances and maximize forward 50 entries. In addition, it looked as though our mids weren’t running both ways. Teams can easily run over the top of us.

25 minutes ago, layzie said:

Premiership is firmly on Collingwood's sights now. Top 2 very much on the agenda, pretend all you want. This is happening 

I think they are peaking too early.

Collingwood were just far superior. They converted their opportunities, and were making the most of their inside 50’s. We don’t do that. We haven’t got a long time - years. It’s frustrating to watch us. I usually go have a shower in the last quarter expecting to check the scores and see we’ve dropped another one. 

Collingwood are obviously very well coached. 11 on the trot now. Simply outplayed us. They were very efficient at goal. Credit to them.

Have to be efficient going inside 50. We haven’t been for years. We were fortunate to have a purple patch last year at the right time. 

1 hour ago, Pates said:

Will be interesting to see how that works, does Sparrow make way for Harmes? Does Harmes have to earn his way back in through Casey? 

Either way glad to here that Gus will remain in the midfield for a while yet.

Harmes too good for Casey.

Skill wise I haven’t seen a demon come close to Kozzie. Maybe Farmer. But that in itself is something because watching the Wizard I never ever thought I’d see a more skillful, crafty and talented demon in my time. Kozzie is that. Even at this young age he is the most talented kid I’ve seen, and most naturally talented Demon I’ve seen. Cyril like. Very crafty. 

59 minutes ago, Garbo said:

What I don’t understand is how we a premiership team can’t attract any of the better key fwds over and yet freo is able to poach Jackson. What is going on 

Where are the good forwards? 

Get out the side Sparrow 

I cannot stand that. 

That last goal was big