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After losing their last two games in a row to finals aspirants, the Demons’ season has unravelled in the blink of an eye. They take on the Bulldogs on Friday night at Marvel Stadium in what has become a “do-or-die” contest to remain in contention for September AFL action and the reality is that they have been forced into a situation in which they are already thinking in terms of mathematical possibilities despite the fact that it’s still a close race and even with four rounds left to play. The coach and the players are facing their own Demons in what is a situation of their own making. Whether or not you like the term “eight point game”, that’s precisely what every game from now on is to the club at a time where a defeat in any of the remaining games is likely to be fatal to their chances. As I noted in my preview of last week, the gap between their best and their worst is wide both between and during games. Consistency is so important and yet, they were so inconsistent in their game last week against the Giants. They were strong in the opening term but faltered in the second. They kept GWS scoreless in the first twenty minutes of the third quarter but conceded three goals to one in seven minutes, late in the term and four in the space of five minutes early in the next before scoring the last four goals of the game to almost steal the points. The inability to apply constant pressure led to their downfall. Melbourne has had a knack in recent times of coming up against opponents at the exact moment when they are at the top of their game. That's where the Bulldogs are at the moment, particularly with their height advantage all over the ground. It starts with Tim English in ruck and extends to their intercept defenders Liam Jones, Buku Khamis and Rory Lobb and tall forwards Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, Aaron Naughton and Sam Darcy. Let’s not forget their midfield champion Marcus Bontempelli who at 194cm is the same height as Jacob van Rooyen, the Demons’ relief ruckman. And, under the stadium’s closed roof, there is no chance that an unexpected downpour can come to their aid as it did a fortnight ago when their undersized team triumphed against Essendon. The teams met in the opening round when Melbourne prevailed by 55 points at the MCG. They managed to easily subdue the taller Western Bulldogs with their superior fitness and run all over the ground. Max Gawn was too good in the ruck, the Doggies’ forward talls were nullified by the Demon defenders and the forwards had enough supply from the mids to ensure a comfortable afternoon’s work for the team. Recent form has seen a massive turnaround in the fortunes of the respective teams. While we can rely on the tall Demon defensive duo of Steven May, Jake Lever and Tom McDonald to play their role, their midfielders have let them down of late and there are major question marks about the ability of those in place without Christian Petracca and now, young speedster Caleb Windsor, to provide sufficient supply to the forwards who are not performing up to the standards required to win games and make the finals. The only hope for the Demons is the tiredness factor because of the five day break between the Dogs' last game and Friday night's encounter. However, I'm not sure that Melbourne has the ability to play four quarters of consistent, intense pressure football while facing both the Bulldogs and their own Demons. Footscray by 27 points. THE GAME Western Bulldogs v Melbourne at Marvel Stadium Friday 2 August 2024 at 7.15 pm HEAD TO HEAD Overall Western Bulldogs 79 wins Melbourne 92 wins 1 draw At Marvel Stadium Western Bulldogs 11 wins Melbourne 9 wins Last Five Meetings Western Bulldogs 1 win Melbourne 4 wins The Coaches Beveridge 4 wins Goodwin 8 wins THE LAST TIME THEY MET Melbourne 16.13.109 defeated Western Bulldogs 9.10.64 at The MCG in Round 1, 2024 After a slow start, the Demon machine clicked into action with its relentless defence headed by Steven May smashing the Bulldogs which the old firm of Gawn, Oliver and Petracca having a slight edge on the Bulldog midfield as the team cruised to a 55-point victory. THE TEAMS FOOTSCRAY B T. Duryea, B. Khamis, N. Coffield HB L. Bramble, R. Lobb, B. Dale C L. Vandermeer, E. Richards, B. Williams HF A. Treloar, A. Naughton, J. Ugle-Hagan F C. Weightman, S. Darcy, R. West FOLL T. English, M. Bontempelli, T. Liberatore I/C C. Daniel, R. Garcia, L. Jones, L. McNeil, C. Poulter EMG O. Baker, J. Freijah, J. Macrae MELBOURNE B J. Lever, S. May, J. McVee HB J. Bowey, T. McDonald, A. Moniz-Wakefield C E. Langdon, C. Oliver, A. Neal-Bullen HF K. Pickett, J. Van Rooyen, B. Fritsch F K. Chandler, H. Petty, J. Melksham FOLL M. Gawn, J. Viney, T. Rivers I/C B. Howes, T. Sparrow, K. Tholstrup, D. Turner, T. Woewodin EMG J. Billings, B. Laurie, A. Tomlinson Injury List: Round 21 Jed Adams — lung / available Koltyn Tholstrup — concussion / test Christian Salem — hamstring / 1 - 2 weeks Caleb Windsor — ankle / TBC Charlie Spargo — Achilles / season Christian Petracca — spleen / indefinite

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10 years and 2 days later it was the start of our 7 game run to winning the 2021 flag.

Top-12 mini ladder Played Points (W/L) % 1 Sydney 13 40 (10-3) 133.2 2 Carlton 13 28 (7-6) 103.9 3 Geelong 13 28 (7-6) 103.4 4 Western Bulldogs 14 24 (6-8) 99.8 5 Greater Western Sydney 12 24 (6-6) 99.8 6 Port Adelaide 11 24 (6-5) 95.2 7 Collingwood 13 24 (5-6-2) 93.9 8 Fremantle 11 22 (5-5-1) 105.5 9 Brisbane 11 20 (5-6) 100.2 10 Melbourne 13 20 (5-8) 90.8 11 Hawthorn 12 20 (5-7) 87.8 12 Essendon 10 18 (4-5-1) 88.7

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Dees used to own the Coaches Votes Leaderboard LEADERBOARD 94 Nick Daicos COLL 92 Isaac Heeney SYD 91 Caleb Serong FRE 86 Patrick Cripps CARL 81 Lachie Neale BL 78 Errol Gulden SYD 74 Marcus Bontempelli WB 70 Zach Merrett ESS 68 Chad Warner SYD 67 Adam Treloar WB 65 Noah Anderson GCFC 61 Sam Walsh CARL 57 Andrew Brayshaw FRE 55 Hayden Young FRE 53 Zak Butters PORT 53 Luke Davies-Uniacke NMFC 53 Jordan Dawson ADEL 52 Josh Dunkley BL 52 Max Holmes GEEL 52 Jason Horne-Francis PORT

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It was Round One and so beautiful to watch Max Gawn dominate the ruck and Clarrie and CP5 running around and causing havoc. MELBOURNE 4.4.28 8.5.53 10.8.68 16.13.109 WESTERN BULLDOGS 4.3.27 6.5.41 7.7.49 9.10.64 THE TEAMS MELBOURNE B T. Rivers, S. May, J. Lever HB J. McVee, B. Howes, M. Hore C E. Langdon, C. Petracca, C. Windsor HF T. Sparrow, J. Van Rooyen, K. Pickett F A. Neal-Bullen, B. Fritsch, K. Chandler FOLL M. Gawn, J. Viney, C. Oliver I/C J. Billings. B. Brown, T. McDonald, C. Salem, T. Woewodin EMG T. Fullarton, B. Laurie, K. Tholstrup IN B. Brown, M. Hore, T. McDonald, K. Pickett SUB T. Woewodin 
OUT J. Bowey (collarbone), J. Schache (omitted), B. Laurie (omitted), C. Spargo (Achilles), A. Tomlinson (omitted) WESTERN BULLDOGS B L. Bramble, L. Jones, N. Coffield HB E. Richards, B. Khamis, B. Dale C J. Harmes, A. Treloar, H. Gallagher HF R. Sanders, R. Lobb, C. Weightman F R. West, A. Naughton, J. Ugle-Hagan FOLL T. English, M. Bontempelli, T. Liberatore 
I/C J. Johannisen, L. McNeil, L. Vandermeer, B. Williams SUB C. Daniel EMG O. Baker, S. Darcy, J. O'Donnell NEW Ryley Sanders (Sandringham Dragons), Lachlan Bramble (Hawthorn), Nick Coffield (St Kilda), Harvey Gallagher (Bendigo Pioneers), James Harmes (Melbourne)

AFL Gosch's Paddock Thursday, August 1 9:30am - 10:15am Monday, August 5 11:45am - 1:00pm Friday, August 9 Timing TBC Monday, August 12 11:45am - 1:00pm Casey Fields Times will be updated here when available. AFLW Gosch's Paddock Thursdays | 3.30pm-5.00pm Saturdays | 10.00am-11.30am There is no session this Saturday, August 3.

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Melbourne fans were put through the wringer on Saturday and ended the night with a sinking feeling as their team suffered a two-point loss to the GWS Giants at the MCG in front of their ailing coach and fell to 11th on the AFL ladder, a game and percentage outside of the top eight. With only four rounds left to play, they must now win every game to advance to the finals. The Demons welcomed back skipper Max Gawn and were off to a flyer as they kicked five goals to one to take a quarter-time lead of 27 points. In the cut throat game that football has become in a year when so many teams are in line for September action, you need to take advantage of every opportunity and whilst they had a handy lead at the first break, it could have been greater with one or two opportunities lost through poor disposal when going forward. The Giants had come back from an even worse position three or four weeks ago against the Blues and they repeated the dose this time kicking 12 of the next 15 goals. They did it by taking control of the midfield, and breaking the Demons’ defensive structures with plenty of run and spread. They kicked with greater accuracy both in front of goal (65% to 52% in scoring shots) and disposed of the ball better in general play where they led by 74% to 66% in effective disposals. GWS also had some luck with a clear 50m penalty missed that could have given away a goal early and a clever drop of the knees by Toby Greene that drew a free kick in front of goal. You need these things to go your way in close results but the visitors earned the victory by taking their chances against a more predictable opponent. They did that to good effect in coming back to within three points at the main break and then weathered the Demons’ storm in the arm wrestle that ensued until time on in the third quarter when held goalless during a period when they were on the back foot. They then changed gears, applied the heat and kicked three goals to one to take the lead by three points at the final break. With former Demon Jesse Hogan on fire, taking marks at will and kicking goals with his stuttering run up, the Giants stunned the embarrassingly small crowd of 16,246 with four goals in the first seven minutes of the final term to open up a 27-point lead, marking a 54-point turnaround since quarter time. The following 25 minutes of time to the final siren were excruciating for Demonkind as their team made a late surge that fell short by two points, their third defeat by less than a goal for the season. Imagine, an extra goal in each of those games, would have put them in second position on the table at this stage. Although the team was beaten in the middle, Clayton Oliver responded to his critics (as if he had to) and Trent Rivers and Jack Viney plugged away for their team. Jake Lever was a stout defender and Ed Langdon added with his drive from the wing. Max Gawn was clearly not at his best after a two week absence with his ankle injury but there were too many others who failed to apply themselves for the full hundred minutes. The irony of Hogan’s match winning goal kicking was not lost on the fans who missed out on similar heroics at their end of the field. The Demons return to action on Friday night when they take on the rising Western Bulldogs who look likely finalists after occupying Melbourne’s current place just a few weeks back. That will give coach Simon Goodwin some pause for thought as he makes his recovery to good health and considers the way to prevent his team from sinking out of the finals picture. We wish him well. MELBOURNE 5.5.35 6.7.43 8.9.57 12.11.83 GWS GIANTS 1.2.8 6.4.40 9.6.60 13.7.85 GOALS MELBOURNE Chandler Fritsch 2 Gawn Langdon Melksham Neale-Bullen Petty Pickett van Rooyen Viney GWS GIANTS Hogan 4 Greene 3 Daniels 2 Bedford Green McMullin Ward BEST MELBOURNE Rivers Viney Lever May Oliver Langdon GWS GIANTS Green Greene Hogan Daniels Callaghan Whitfield INJURIES MELBOURNE Nil GWS GIANTS Nil REPORTS MELBOURNE Nil GWS GIANTS Nil SUBSTITUTIONS MELBOURNE Daniel Turner, replaced Jack Billings at three-quarter time GWS GIANTS Joe Fonti, unused UMPIRES Nick Foot Justin Power Hayden Gavine CROWD 16,246 at the MCG

Leaderboard After Round 20 PLAYER VOTES 1 Max Gawn 165 2 Steven May 104 3 Christian Petracca 97 4 Jack Viney 94 5 Trent Rivers 91 6 Alex Neal-Bullen 85 7 Clayton Oliver 65 8 Kysaiah Pickett 60 9 Ed Langdon 58 10 Jacob van Rooyen 55 11 Judd McVee 49 12 Christian Salem 44 13 Jake Lever 43 =14 Bayley Fritsch 31 =14 Tom McDonald 31 16 Caleb Windsor 25 17 Kade Chandler 19 18 Tom Sparrow 17 19 Harry Petty 14 20 Jack Billings 12 =21 Blake Howes 11 =21 Daniel Turner 11 23 Adam Tomlinson 9 =24 Jake Melksham 2 =24 Andy Moniz-Wakefield 2 26 Jake Bowey 1

There was a stage deep in the third term of the game at Casey Fields when UTS Giants fans were deep in despair. Three and a half minutes of time on had elapsed, the rains were coming down, the wind was howling and the lights on the scoreboard on the outer brightly shone like a distress signal as their team’s season sagged on the line - • Casey Demons 6 goals 9 behinds 45 points • UWS Giants 3 goals 3 behinds 21 points. The Giants were being dominated in the wet conditions and while the deficit of four goals was not insurmountable, it looked impossible. The fact of the matter was that but for the home side’s inaccuracy in front of goals, their season would have already been well and truly sunk. As it turned out, there was no need to panic. The Giants’ winning key forward Max Gruzewski was about to boot through his fourth goal to raise their faint hopes of a revival. When the siren sounded to signal three quarter time he was still their only goal kicker and they trailed by 20 points. Then followed eighteen frenetic minutes to remember as the Giants added another four goals (including Max Gruzewski’s fifth in a row) to Casey’s four behinds to level the scores at 51 each another nine minutes before Callum Brown kicked a point to put the team in front. That was enough to win it but, for good measure, they added another at a little over a minute left. The final score board flashed - • Casey Demons 6 goals 15 behinds 51 points • UWS Giants 9 goals 4 behinds 58 points. The final score would have been familiar to a couple of AFL premiership players in Tom Sparrow and Lachie Hunter who played in similarly unfriendly conditions in Alice Springs against the Giants last year (5.15.45 to 7.5.47) so they would be well aware that the adage about bad kicking being bad football is so very much an important indicator of how games in this sport are won and lost. To a lesser extent the AFL Demons learned the same lesson last night. The defeat was certainly not the fault of either of those players. Sparrow entered the fray determined to atone for his omission from the Melbourne team with 31 disposals, nine tackles and nine clearances. One of those tackles was a bone jarring tackle that showed his teammates the way as they began their period of dominance in the second and third quarters. Even when the Giants’ revival was on the cards, he was burrowing in hard for the football to will his team home. Hunter finished with 18 possessions, three marks and a couple of tackles after resting on the bench in the game’s early stages. Other Melbourne listed players to do well were Tom Fullarton with 25 disposals, 16 hitouts, ten clearances and o goal and defenders Marty Hore and Adam Tomlinson was strong with 23 and 22 touches respectively. Matthew Jefferson continues to showcase a future of promise with his 17 disposals but could have learned from Gruzewski when it came to accuracy in front of the big sticks. His only goal from four shots came from a long way out. Young rookies in Ollie Sestan and Will Verrall showed that they remain worthy of perseverance going into the future. Mitch White was once again the leader of the pack of VFL listed players along with Tyson Edwards but in the main this cohort tired badly in the end along with many of the AFL listed players who struggled to find touch in the difficult conditions in a game that got away. CASEY DEMONS 2.2.14 4.5.29 6.11.47 6.15.51 UWS GIANTS 2.2.14 3.3.21 4.3.27 9.4.58 GOALS CASEY DEMONS Bell Fullarton Jefferson Verrall White Yze UWS GIANTS Gruzewski 5 Delana Hebron Wardius Wehr BEST CASEY DEMONS Sparrow Hore Fullarton White Jefferson Sestan UWS GIANTS Gruzewski Haynes Leake Brown Stone Angwin Statistics Jack Bell 1 goals 2 kicks 2 handballs 4 disposals 2 marks 22 dream team points Kynan Brown 3 kicks 7 handballs 10 disposals 1 mark 7 tackles 54 dream team points Tyler Edwards 9 kicks 7 handballs 16 disposals 1 mark 41 dream team points Tom Fullarton 1 goal 1 behind 14 kicks 10 handballs 24 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 16 hitouts 95 dream team points Roy George 3 behinds 7 kicks 3 handballs 10 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 44 dream team points Max Gregory 2 kicks 2 handballs 4 disposals 1 mark 1 tackle 17 dream team points Blake Howes 6 kicks 4 handballs 10 disposals 1 mark 1 tackle 33 dream team points Marty Hore 17 kicks 6 handballs 23 disposals 11 marks 1 tackle 97 dream team points Lachie Hunter 1 behind 12 kicks 6 handballs 18 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 66 dream team points Matt Jefferson 1 goal 3 behinds 8 kicks 9 handballs 17 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 73 dream team points Luker Kentfield 1 behind 4 kicks 4 disposals 1 mark 15 dream team points Nick Moodie kicks handballs disposals marks tackles 41 dream team points Harvey Neocleous kicks handballs disposals marks tackles dream team points Charlie Peters 1 behind 7 kicks 5 handballs 12 disposals 4 tackles 48 dream team points Josh Schache 6 kicks 1 handballs 7 disposals 3 marks 30 dream team points Ollie Sestan 1 behind 12 kicks 3 handballs 15 disposals 4 marks 3 tackles 79 dream team points Tom Sparrow 1 behind 17 kicks 14 handballs 31 disposals 4 marks 9 tackles 133 dream team points Roan Steele 12 kicks 3 handballs 15 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 64 dream team points Adam Tomlinson 17 kicks 4 handballs 21 disposals 8 marks 78 dream team points Will Verrall 1 goal 1 behind 9 kicks 3 handballs 12 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 11 hitouts 64 dream team points Mitch White 1 goal 16 kicks 5 handballs 21 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 86 dream team points Kai Windsor 10 kicks 2 handballs 12 disposals 1 mark 1 tackle 42 dream team points Noah Yze 1 goals 4 kicks 4 handballs 8 disposals 2 marks 7 tackles 57 dream team point

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GOT AWAY by KC from Casey There was a stage deep in the third term of the game at Casey Fields when UTS Giants fans were deep in despair. Three and a half minutes of time on had elapsed, the rains were coming down, the wind was howling and the lights on the scoreboard on the outer brightly shone like a distress signal as their team’s season sagged on the line - • Casey Demons 6 goals 9 behinds 45 points • UWS Giants 3 goals 3 behinds 21 points. The Giants were being dominated in the wet conditions and while the deficit of four goals was not insurmountable, it looked impossible. The fact of the matter was that but for the home side’s inaccuracy in front of goals, their season would have already been well and truly sunk. As it turned out, there was no need to panic. The Giants’ winning key forward Max Gruzewski was about to boot through his fourth goal to raise their faint hopes of a revival. When the siren sounded to signal three quarter time he was still their only goal kicker and they trailed by 20 points. Then followed eighteen frenetic minutes to remember as the Giants added another four goals (including Max Gruzewski’s fifth in a row) to Casey’s four behinds to level the scores at 51 each another nine minutes before Callum Brown kicked a point to put the team in front. That was enough to win it but, for good measure, they added another at a little over a minute left. The final score board flashed - • Casey Demons 6 goals 15 behinds 51 points • UWS Giants 9 goals 4 behinds 58 points. The final score would have been familiar to a couple of AFL premiership players in Tom Sparrow and Lachie Hunter who played in similarly unfriendly conditions in Alice Springs against the Giants last year (5.15.45 to 7.5.47) so they would be well aware that the adage about bad kicking being bad football is so very much an important indicator of how games in this sport are won and lost. To a lesser extent the AFL Demons learned the same lesson last night. The defeat was certainly not the fault of either of those players. Sparrow entered the fray determined to atone for his omission from the Melbourne team with 31 disposals, nine tackles and nine clearances. One of those tackles was a bone jarring tackle that showed his teammates the way as they began their period of dominance in the second and third quarters. Even when the Giants’ revival was on the cards, he was burrowing in hard for the football to will his team home. Hunter finished with 18 possessions, three marks and a couple of tackles after resting on the bench in the game’s early stages. Other Melbourne listed players to do well were Tom Fullarton with 25 disposals, 16 hitouts, ten clearances and o goal and defenders Marty Hore and Adam Tomlinson was strong with 23 and 22 touches respectively. Matthew Jefferson continues to showcase a future of promise with his 17 disposals but could have learned from Gruzewski when it came to accuracy in front of the big sticks. His only goal from four shots came from a long way out. Young rookies in Ollie Sestan and Will Verrall showed that they remain worthy of perseverance going into the future. Mitch White was once again the leader of the pack of VFL listed players along with Tyson Edwards but in the main this cohort tired badly in the end along with many of the AFL listed players who struggled to find touch in the difficult conditions in a game that got away. CASEY DEMONS 2.2.14 4.5.29 6.11.47 6.15.51 UWS GIANTS 2.2.14 3.3.21 4.3.27 9.4.58 GOALS CASEY DEMONS Bell Fullarton Jefferson Verrall White Yze UWS GIANTS Gruzewski 5 Delana Hebron Wardius Wehr BEST CASEY DEMONS Sparrow Hore Fullarton White Jefferson Sestan Fullarton UWS GIANTS Gruzewski Haynes Leake Brown Stone Angwin Statistics Jack Bell 1 goals 2 kicks 2 handballs 4 disposals 2 marks 22 dream team points Kynan Brown 3 kicks 7 handballs 10 disposals 1 mark 7 tackles 54 dream team points Tyler Edwards 9 kicks 7 handballs 16 disposals 1 mark 41 dream team points Tom Fullarton 1 goal 1 behind 14 kicks 10 handballs 24 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 16 hitouts 95 dream team points Roy George 3 behinds 7 kicks 3 handballs 10 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 44 dream team points Max Gregory 2 kicks 2 handballs 4 disposals 1 mark 1 tackle 17 dream team points Blake Howes 6 kicks 4 handballs 10 disposals 1 mark 1 tackle 33 dream team points Marty Hore 17 kicks 6 handballs 23 disposals 11 marks 1 tackle 97 dream team points Lachie Hunter 1 behind 12 kicks 6 handballs 18 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 66 dream team points Matt Jefferson 1 goal 3 behinds 8 kicks 9 handballs 17 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 73 dream team points Luker Kentfield 1 behind 4 kicks 4 disposals 1 mark 15 dream team points Nick Moodie kicks handballs disposals marks tackles 41 dream team points Harvey Neocleous kicks handballs disposals marks tackles dream team points Charlie Peters 1 behind 7 kicks 5 handballs 12 disposals 4 tackles 48 dream team points Josh Schache 6 kicks 1 handballs 7 disposals 3 marks 30 dream team points Ollie Sestan 1 behind 12 kicks 3 handballs 15 disposals 4 marks 3 tackles 79 dream team points Tom Sparrow 1 behind 17 kicks 14 handballs 31 disposals 4 marks 9 tackles 133 dream team points Roan Steele 12 kicks 3 handballs 15 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 64 dream team points Adam Tomlinson 17 kicks 4 handballs 21 disposals 8 marks 78 dream team points Will Verrall 1 goal 1 behind 9 kicks 3 handballs 12 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 11 hitouts 64 dream team points Mitch White 1 goal 16 kicks 5 handballs 21 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 86 dream team points Kai Windsor 10 kicks 2 handballs 12 disposals 1 mark 1 tackle 42 dream team points Noah Yze 1 goals 4 kicks 4 handballs 8 disposals 2 marks 7 tackles 57 dream team points

The Demons head over to Marvel Stadium for the first time this season when they take on the Western Bulldogs on Friday Night. Who comes in and who goes out?

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