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They went yesterday

I have no problem with the concept of Opening Round. They just should called it Round 1.

Interesting. Did any other Demon listed players put on a yellow bib? Eg: Tholstrup?

Some updates on the injury front filling in the blanks above. Turner (stress fracture leg) 10-12 weeks Melbourne have also noted that Angus Brayshaw (illness), Taj Woewodin(concussion) and Andy Moniz-Wakefield(thigh) won't feature in Sunday's match simulation. The Demons are already without the likes of Ben Brown (knee) and Tom Fullarton(hamstring) for the start of the 2024 season.

Some updates on the injury front Melbourne defender Daniel Turner is set to miss a large portion of the 2024 season after suffering a stress fracture in his leg. The Demons confirmed on Saturday that the 22-year-old will be sidelined for up to 12 weeks after sustaining the femur injury during the pre-season. Turner has dealt with hand and facial injuries during his time with the Demons to play just three games over the past two seasons. Melbourne football boss Alan Richardsonsaid the key defender's latest setback was an unfortunate result. “Daniel has unfortunately sustained a stress fracture in his femur,” Richardson said in a club update. “This will see him miss quite a significant block, with his return-to-play timeline being 10 to 12 weeks. “While this news is really disappointing, we know the type of person and athlete Daniel is, and expect him to attack his rehab with a positive and determined mindset over the coming weeks.” Fellow key position Demon Harrison Pettywill miss his club's first pre-season meeting with Richmond this weekend due to toe soreness. The new ailment will keep Petty sidelined for the time being, with the club hopeful the defender-turned-forward can be fit prior to their Opening Round clash with Sydney. “Harrison has been experiencing some soreness in his toe, which has meant he hasn't been able to build up his training loads as we would've liked,” Richardson added. “He won't play on Sunday, but we will continue to monitor him in the lead up to our practice match against Carlton.” New recruit Shane McAdam remains sidelined with a calf issue he recently sustained at training, with the Demons having to rule out the medium-sized forward for Sunday's clash at Casey Fields as well. Richardson said the club will be patient in their approach with McAdam. “Shane has some ongoing tightness in his calf, and we have made the decision to take a conservative approach,” Richardson said. “He is going to be such an important player for us, so we don't want to be risking anything at this stage of the pre-season.” Melbourne have also noted that Angus Brayshaw (illness), Taj Woewodin(concussion) and Andy Moniz-Wakefield(thigh) won't feature in Sunday's match simulation. The Demons are already without the likes of Ben Brown (knee) and Tom Fullarton(hamstring) for the start of the 2024 season. Melbourne host Richmond at Casey Fields on Sunday morning before a second pre-season match with Carlton. Their first game proper of 2024 will come at the SCG on Thursday, March 7 against the Swans.

Only reason people are positing that he plays in the seconds is based on who he trained with this morning.

MATCH SIM SQUADS: Dees' shock Clarry call, Tiger returns MELBOURNE has named Clayton Oliver for its match simulation against Richmond on Sunday despite the star midfielder only rejoining his teammates for pre-season training three weeks ago, while Tigers young gun Josh Gibcus will have his first serious hitout since the 2022 elimination final. The action at Casey Fields on Sunday will be played across seven periods, with the number of players taking part up to the clubs involved. It means it's not clear how much Oliver will take part in the action, but it's likely the star midfielder will be on limited minutes given his interrupted summer. After battling injuries and medical issues for most of last season and facing questions over his off-field behaviour during a tumultuous Trade Period, Oliver took extended leave from the club in December to focus on his personal wellbeing and only returned to training in the rehab group on January 31. Gibcus hasn't been seen since his eye-catching debut season in 2022 when he played 18 games after being selected at pick No.9 in the 2021 AFL Draft. The young Tiger's complex hamstring tendon injury required surgery early last year and eventually resulted in a trip to an internationally renowned sports medicine practice in Qatar during the off-season. Melbourne defender-turned-forward Harrison Petty, who missed the finals last year due to a Lisfranc injury, suffered a fresh setback this week with a toe injury keeping him out of the match sim, while winger Lachie Hunter will also miss due to a persistent calf issue. Angus Brayshaw won't play as he continues to integrate back into full training following the concussion injury he sustained in the qualifying final last year, while Ben Brown (knee) Tom Fullarton (hamstring) and Jake Melksham (knee) will also miss due to injury. Charlie Spargo, Shane McAdam and Tom McDonald are notable absentees from the squad. Richmond will also be without a host of big names for the clash including skipper Toby Nankervis, former co-captain Dylan Grimes, midfield trio Dion Prestia, Dustin Martin, and Tim Taranto as well as forward Tom Lynch. Grimes (calf), Martin (ankle) and Prestia (hamstring) are all expected to feature in the Tigers' AFL Community Series match against Collingwood on Tuesday, February 27, while Lynch (foot) has only just returned to the main group and isn't expected to play until round one after being ruled out of the Tigers' Opening Round clash against Gold Coast. Nankervis is managing a sore foot but isn't considered in any doubt for Opening Round at this stage. East Perth forward Mitch Schofield and New Zealander Mykelti Lefau will both get one final chance to impress for a spot on the rookie list in the practice match against the Demons. The pair joined the club when the pre-season supplemental selection period opened on November 27 and have completed the full program across the pre-season. AFL-listed players Hugo Ralphsmith, Judson Clarke, Matthew Coulthard, Noah Cumberland, Oliver Hayes-Brown and Kaleb Smith have been named in Richmond's 'B' squad to play in the second half of the match. Sunday's match simulation will be broadcast live on Fox Footy, available on Kayo Sports and Foxtel. Gates open at 9.30am with the match to start at 10am. Entry is free. The eight other club-arranged match simulations will be played between February 21-24, with the format, including the length of quarters or periods and squad sizes, determined by the clubs involved. Following the match sims, all 18 clubs will play official practice games in the AFL Community Series between February 27 and March 3. Melbourne v Richmond at Casey Fields, 10am AEDT (Seven-quarter match sim) MELBOURNE 1. Steven May, 2. Jacob van Rooyen, 3. Christian Salem, 4. Judd McVee, 5. Christian Petracca, 6. Caleb Windsor, 7. Jack Viney, 8. Jake Lever, 11. Max Gawn, 13. Clayton Oliver, 14. Jack Billings, 15. Ed Langdon, 16. Bailey Laurie, 17. Jake Bowey, 19. Josh Schache, 20. Adam Tomlinson, 21. Matt Jefferson, 22. Blake Howes, 24. Trent Rivers, 26. Jed Adams, 27. Marty Hore, 28. Will Verrall, 30. Alex Neal-Bullen, 31. Bayley Fritsch, 32. Tom Sparrow, 36. Kysaiah Pickett, 37. Kade Chandler, 38. Oliver Sestan, 39. Koltyn Tholstrup, 41. Kynan Brown, 43. Kyah Farris-White Notable absentees: Charlie Spargo, Angus Brayshaw, Lachie Hunter, Jake Melksham, Shane McAdam, Tom McDonald, Tom Fullarton, Harrison Petty, Ben Brown RICHMOND 1. Nick Vlastuin, 5. Jack Ross, 10. Maurice Rioli, 15. Jayden Short, 17. Daniel Rioli, 18. Josh Gibcus, 19. Mykelti Lefau, 20. Jacob Koschitzke, 21. Noah Balta, 22. Jacob Hopper, 24. Sam Naismith, 27. Thomson Dow, 28. Kane McAuliffe, 29. Shai Bolton, 30. Tom Brown, 31. Rhyan Mansell, 32. Samson Ryan, 33. Kamdyn McIntosh, 34. Jack Graham, 35. Nathan Broad, 36. James Trezise, 40. Tyler Sonsie, 41. Sam Banks, 44. Seth Campbell, 45. Tylar Young, 46. Ben Miller, 48. Steely Green, 50. Marlion Pickett Notable absentees: Dylan Grimes, Dion Prestia, Dustin Martin, Liam Baker, Tim Taranto, Tom Lynch, Toby Nankervis

Just saw that. https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1491043/ Here is the Tigers official squad: Richmond's pre-season match simulation squad against Melbourne: 1 Nick Vlastuin 5 Jack Ross 10 Maurice Rioli 11 Judson Clarke 13 Hugo Ralphsmith 15 Jayden Short 17 Daniel Rioli 18 Josh Gibcus 20 Jacob Koschitzke 21 Noah Balta 22 Jacob Hopper 24 Sam Naismith 26 Matthew Coulthard 27 Thomson Dow 28 Kane McAuliffe 29 Shai Bolton 30 Tom Brown 31 Rhyan Mansell 32 Samson Ryan 33 Kamdyn McIntosh 34 Jack Graham 35 Nathan Broad 36 James Trezise 38 Noah Cumberland 39 Oliver Hayes-Brown 40 Tyler Sonsie 41 Sam Banks 44 Seth Campbell 45 Tylar Young 46 Ben Miller 48 Steely Green 49 Kaleb Smith 50 Marlion Pickett 19 Mykelti Lefau (SSP train on) 33 Mitch Schofield (SSP train on) VFL players taking part in the final three intervals: 52 Mohammed Yassine 53 Joel Garner 54 Chad Harris 55 Lachlan Street 56 Harry White 57 Mutaz El Nour 58 Cam Olden 59 Nick Girolami 60 Sam Frangalas 61 Tom Brindley 62 Nick Guiney 66 Luke Teal 67 Liam George 70 Will Bravo 71 Archie May 76 Tom McCarthy *Numbers are subject to change throughout the duration of the match simulation

I know it is only a practice match (well only if we lose) but it's never too early to peek over the fence and see what they're saying at Microwave Park. Could get ugly What do you mean could? Kinda feel sorry for Melbourne fans who may have to deal with an ugly loss this weekend after their tumultuous off-season last year we looked terrible in the praccies and were terrible in the real stuff. When we changed our gameplan in the 17 pre season we looked really good in the praccys. Interested to see how shite we look. if we win we will rocket to unbackable premiership favourites, if we loose we'll be merging with norf. Win this and I can’t see us loosing another game Where da * is Duzzy? The GOAT don't get up before 10am Sunday mornings in February

According to Tigers BigFooty these are the Tigers Available Players. Available Players: 1. Nick Vlastuin 5. Jack Ross 7. Liam Baker 10. Maurice Rioli 13. Hugo Ralphsmith 14. Tim Taranto 15. Jayden Short 17. Daniel Rioli 18. Josh Gibcus 20. Jacob Koschitzke 21. Noah Balta 22. Jacob Hopper 23. Judson Clarke 24. Sam Naismith 27. Thomson Dow 28. Kane McAuliffe 29. Shai Bolton 30. Tom Brown 31. Rhyan Mansell 32. Samson Ryan 33. Kamdyn McIntosh 34. Jack Graham 35. Nathan Broad 36. James Trezise 37. Liam Fawcett 38. Noah Cumberland 39. Mate Colina 40. Tyler Sonsie 41. Sam Banks 44. Seth Campbell 45. Tylar Young 46. Ben Miller 47. Oliver Hayes-Brown 48. Steely Green 49. Kaleb Smith 50. Marlion Pickett SSP - Mitch Schofield SSP - Mykelti Lefau

That is why Demonland exists. A lot of the other injury blanks we've pieced together from our wonderful Trackwatchers.

This is worrying for Hunter as he obviously reinjured or flared up the calf after returning to full training. Having said that it is giving Windsor a good crack at Opening Round.

Can anyone fill in the blanks (?) to the injuries above? Brayshaw, Tuner, AMW

According to the Tigers the following players are unlikely to be playing tomorrow: Dustin Martin, Tom Lynch, Dion Prestia, Toby Nankervis

From @Tough Kent and others ( @WERRIDEE, @kev martin ) observations in the Training Thread today this is the closest we can expect to an announcement of teams. Senior squad: May, JVR, McVee, Petracca, Windsor, Viney, Lever, Gawn, Billings, Langdon, Laurie, Bowey, Schache, Tomlinson, Howes, Rivers, Verrall, ANB, Fritta, Sparrow, Kozzie, Chandler, K Brown. Possible 2nds: Clarry, Salem, Hore, Tholstrup, Adams, Sestan, KFW, Jefferson. Missing due to Injury/Managing: Brayshaw (?), Spargo (Achilles?), Petty (Toe), Hunter (Calf), Melksham (Knee), B Brown (Knee), TMac (Calf), Fullarton (Hamstring), Turner (?), AMW (?), McAdam (Calf), Woewodin (Concussion), Smith (Suspension?)

The last training session I was at on 7/2/24 I reported that late in the session he went into the sheds towards the end of the session. He didn't join the main group after that.

On the eve of the Dees first practice match for the 2024 season a couple of Demonland Trackwatchers bring you their observations from today’s Captain’s Run at Gosch’s Paddock. KEV MARTIN’S CAPTAIN’S RUN OBSERVATIONS Looks a a dress rehearsal Captain's run. 23 out doing drills. Included is Will Verall, Kynan Brown, Bailey Laurie, Caleb Windsor, Blake Howes, Adam Tomlinson, Kade Chandler, Jack Billings and Josh Schache. Rehab include BBB, Tom Fullarton, TMac, AMW, Woey. Not included in this group are Clayton Oliver, Christian Salem, Charlie Spargo, Angus Brayshaw, Shane McAdam, Matt Jefferson, Jed Adams, Marty Hore, Harry Petty, Koltyn Tholstrup, Daniel Turner and Kyah Farris-White. … The second team players have now turned up. No shows. Daniel Turner, Charlie Spargo and Harry Petty. Shane McAdam is doing his own program. Clayton Oliver is also with the second group, as are a few Casey players. The seconds are in red or blue guernseys. The captain's runners are wearing red. In red in the seconds are, Oliver, Farris-White, Jefferson, Salem, Sestan, Hore, Tholstrup and Adams. Seems Casey are in the blue. Lovely morning for a run, overcast, no wind, cool temperature. It's a captain's run of 23 players strutting their stuff. It looks like Kossie will be able to play. Interestingly they are giving some first yearers, new and young ones a go at it - Verall, K. Brown, Laurie, Windsor, Howes, Chandler, Billings and Schache. They appear switched on in the drills. Goody has implemented a few different scenarios in the no contact sims. Once he called a “power play”. Pushes a backmen forward of the stoppage, gets the wingers to be wide ('will only work if you are very wide') and they take the ball straight down the middle from a backline stoppage. Another drill had them receiving the ball on the inside corridor and hitting into the forward area. I can see us playing with a more open forward area this season, or at least at times and using a bit more strategy during the game, as we change the styles up. Keep them guessing Dee's. Forgot to mention that Angus Brayshaw was also a no show. Great to see all the rehab do some sprinting drills and were included in the team drills with the seconds (except McAdam and Jefferson). Woey wearing the yellow concussion protocol hat. Oliver made his way to most of the Casey players. Those Casey appeared a bit star stuck and Clarry introduced himself, shook hands and encouraged them. Nothing highfalutin about him. The Casey players did the drills well, looks like most of the younger ones. I'm impressed with Tyler Williams, Ryan Valentine, Charlie Muley My prediction is, year of the Tom Sparrow. Hit some great passes, looks fit, appears slim downed, and I reckon, will run through brick walls. Hoping Jared Rivers will also continue his trajectory. Caleb Windsor has learnt so much in his short time with us. Interesting to see how he goes, I reckon he will be a class above. I really want to see K. Brown. Reminds me of Robbie Flower body shape, very elusive (cannot be tackled), has great vision, uses/changes the angles and has skills. Hope Verrall has got what it takes. Big game for him. Another no show today was Melky. WERRIDEE’S CAPTAIN’S RUN OBSERVATIONS Bowser, Trent Rivers, Judd McVee and Blake Howes arriving now. Adam Tomlinson, Steven May and Jake Lever join them. Just kick to kick atm. Tom McDonald has arrived. Frittata and Roo have arrived. Tom Sparrow and Bailey Laurie join in Ed Langdon, Trac K. Brown, Josh Schache, Kossie, Kade Chandler, Jack Viney, Max Gawn, Nibbler, Jack Billings, Caleb Windsor, Taj Woewodin and Will Verrall arrive. Tom McDonald just told me that he’s right for the Carlton game. The group are doing agility drills. McDonald and Woewodin kicking away from the drills. Ben Brown, Tom Fullerton and Andy Moniz-Wakefield arrive Woewodin is out with concussion will be back against Carlton Now kicking and handball drills McDonald Woewodin Fullarton jogging laps It’s only just a guess but the players training in the main group will play tomorrow meaning meaning we will see K Brown and Verrall Ball movement has been impressive very fast Some Casey players arrive with Kyah Farris-White, Jed Adams, Christian Salem, Ollie Sestan, Matt Jefferson, Marty Hore, Clarry and Koltyn Tholstrup. B. Brown Fullerton and AMW are playing keeping’s off. Forwards and mids kicking for goal while the backs do marking and kicking drills The seconds are training now. McAdam jogging laps. The seniors are done. Woewodin doing drills. Todays been non contact so it’s understandable why he’s doing the drills AMW in the drills as well B. Brown also the drills as is Fullarton - mustn’t be too far away. Even Tom McDonald is now in the drills The only ones that are not participating are McAdam and Jefferson who is having shots at goal. Jefferson just told me they are adjusting his loads that’s why he’s not training but will play in the reserves AMW, B. Brown and Fullarton should be available for opening round the only concern is McAdam who seems a fair way away from returning to the team McAdam told me he should be right round 2 the calf niggle is not as bad as he first thought The reserves are done and dusted TOUGH KENT'S CAPTAIN'S RUN OBSERVATIONS CLAYTON IS BACK!!! Clarrie will play in the seconds tomorrow. From the Captain's Run: Senior squad for tomorrow: May, Roo, McVee, Trac, Windsor, Viney, Lever, Gawn, Billings, Langdon, Laurie, Bowey, Schache, Thommo, Howes, Rivers, Verrall, Nibbler, Fritta, Spaz, Kozzie, Chin. Gus and Spargo nowhere to be seen. Didn't sight Hunter, Petty, Melks, Disco Turner. Shane McAdam did very slow runthroughs on the boundary line. The rest, including Clayton, Salo, Marty Hore trained with the Casey boys when the seniors finished up. TMac, Browny, Andy Moniz-Wakefield, Fullarton, Taj Woewodin all did stuff away and with the main group. I spoke to these boys and they all hope to play in the next week or two. CHECKOUT THE PRESEASON LIVE TRAINING THREAD FOR ADDITIONAL OBSERVATIONS AND CONVERSATION

Disappointed that Tholstrup isn't likely to get a starting gig in the Scratch Match. I've been very impressed with what I've seen of him and thought he deserves a try out in the preseason.

Wonder if Clarry might get a gig late in the Scratch Match tomorrow.

Seems Verrell will have backup ruck duties ahead of KFW.