David Schwartz is a tool

[Yencks 8]

I have just listened to the last 2 hours of SEN and can't believe the absolute crap that comes out of this guys mouth...we have people calling up saying we need more past player involvement and he says (referring to melbourne) "WE, actually not we, them"....is he embaressed to have played for melbourne?

he also said something along the lines of "steve harris has changed the logo, because they are trying to get into the chinese...i can't believe he is trying to use china as the backbone for their memberships"

THAT IS NOT THE ONLY REASON WE ARE TRYING TO DELVE INTO CHINA. We are trialing with an initiative that no other club has thought about delving into until now...we could find ourselves a couple of chinese players playing football like no one has before. We are thinking outside the box just like we did with Ireland...we dont get any credit fot that these days...we are finally realising that maybe there are players from other origins that could be great AFL footballers and China is the place we have chosen...have a look at this Natanui fijian guy, he could be an absolute champion.

and on the china matter, shwarta, we are trying to possibly sign up a couple of members that are new to the country from china, but we arent trying to get china as the bloody backbone of our membership, why would you say that?...i mean here is a guy talking down to the club that he once played for, i dont believe it.

and just like garry lyon, writing articles about stuff that has to be done at melbourne....he is talking about people actually noticing problems and attacking them and taking initiative....why dont you do something garry, james brayshaw works a similar timeslot to you and does a lot for his club, eddie mcguire can...why cant you help your old club out a little more yourself, rather than complain...i have a lot of respect for garry lyon mind you, but i fin that he is contradicting himself somewhat because he could be such a boost to our club if he did more

sorry if i have offended anybody but i am annoyed

[Hards 2]

PG openly admitted the other night on footy classified that the utalising the contacts and the expertise of the Past Players was something that the MFC has struggled with in recent years. Lyon and Stynes went to Gardner about this very issue not long after Harris was sacked.

Schwarz like anyone has the right to have an opinion on how the footy club is running. He and Lyon know more about its struggles off field than 95% of the people on this board. FWIW I agree with him on the China issue, I think its a massive mistake, and the Melbourne Tigers unsuccessful foray into it is evidence of that.

At some point Lyon will make a final decision on whether or not he wants to coach or stay in the media. Should he stay in the media at some point he'll be on our board and most likely President of the footy club. I for one hope he is President sooner rather than later to give us a genuine public face.

[red&blue&true 0]

They take calls nugget, tell him how ya feel

[Deestroy All 14,262]

Send him an email. I'm sure someone will read it to him.

[Yencks 8]

Send him an email. I'm sure someone will read it to him.

i would happily email him with my name and details for a reply but where do i email him and as if he reads all of the emails everyday, i have tried emailing people like this before and never get replies

[Deestroy All 14,262]

i would happily email him with my name and details for a reply but where do i email him and as if he reads all of the emails everyday, i have tried emailing people like this before and never get replies

Think you missed the joke mate.

[Yencks 8]

Think you missed the joke mate.

fair enough deetox...i wasnt seeing it at the same angle as you...i see where your coming from but its a little late and embaressing now for me to retract statements

[Deestroy All 14,262]

It's ok, the joke is still on the Ox.

Unless someone reads him this thread, and he thinks you're a tool for not getting my awesome joke.

[kramer 0]

I have just listened to the last 2 hours of SEN and can't believe the absolute crap that comes out of this guys mouth...we have people calling up saying we need more past player involvement and he says (referring to melbourne) "WE, actually not we, them"....is he embaressed to have played for melbourne?

he also said something along the lines of "steve harris has changed the logo, because they are trying to get into the chinese...i can't believe he is trying to use china as the backbone for their memberships"

THAT IS NOT THE ONLY REASON WE ARE TRYING TO DELVE INTO CHINA. We are trialing with an initiative that no other club has thought about delving into until now...we could find ourselves a couple of chinese players playing football like no one has before. We are thinking outside the box just like we did with Ireland...we dont get any credit fot that these days...we are finally realising that maybe there are players from other origins that could be great AFL footballers and China is the place we have chosen...have a look at this Natanui fijian guy, he could be an absolute champion.

and on the china matter, shwarta, we are trying to possibly sign up a couple of members that are new to the country from china, but we arent trying to get china as the bloody backbone of our membership, why would you say that?...i mean here is a guy talking down to the club that he once played for, i dont believe it.

and just like garry lyon, writing articles about stuff that has to be done at melbourne....he is talking about people actually noticing problems and attacking them and taking initiative....why dont you do something garry, james brayshaw works a similar timeslot to you and does a lot for his club, eddie mcguire can...why cant you help your old club out a little more yourself, rather than complain...i have a lot of respect for garry lyon mind you, but i fin that he is contradicting himself somewhat because he could be such a boost to our club if he did more

sorry if i have offended anybody but i am annoyed

i agree with you nugget and on gary lyon he is a classic fence sitter, he has an a opinion on everything but commitment to nothing. he prefers to stay in the media comfort zone where he can give simplistic solutions to complex problems and not have to get his hands dirty. love him or hate him at least eddie gets in the trenches with his team

[deeangel 2]

Agree re Schwartz- I heard the same comment re China members and thought he was just being a smart alack! He often criticizes the club- past players of other clubs are loyal(bar Liber. at the moment) and make a few constructive comments. David just bags us at every opportunity- I get the feeling he does not like the club. I avoid listening to 1116 when he is on.

[kramer 0]

ox got carried for 3 yrs , he must have a short memory

[Jerry Lundergard 420]

Schwarz was in the Hawks cheer squad as a lad growing up, and i suspect he'll be secretly wishing of a Hawthorn premiership this year.

I am hoping we can get off to a good start to give me some ammuniton to get on SEN and call him out of the Hawk loving traitor he is.

[Yencks 8]

Schwarz was in the Hawks cheer squad as a lad growing up, and i suspect he'll be secretly wishing of a Hawthorn premiership this year.

I am hoping we can get off to a good start to give me some ammuniton to get on SEN and call him out of the Hawk loving traitor he is.

do you really think he would go for the hawks now? that is an interesting fact, somebody that sounds convincing should get onto SEN and put him into place

that is, if there are any melbourne supporters out there that would call up...we had about four today, and in comparison to the carlton callers, we hardly had any callers..

i do think however what he said about carlton was right, something along the lines of "they could have come out and made a statement saying this is what we believe in (if they suspended him) and bad behaviour will not be tolerated at carlton anymore" he also said that chris judd would probably have received a lot of support if carlton suspended fev because it would show he is trying to make a real difference as captain...about the only good things that david said all afternoon

[Gouga 566]

It's ok, the joke is still on the Ox.

Unless someone reads him this thread, and he thinks you're a tool for not getting my awesome joke.

More likely he'll think you're a tool.

[Gouga 566]

I listen to the run home often and don't think Schwarz is overly critical of Melbourne. If he doesn't agree with Melbourne's push into China then that is fine. It is his opinion. He is paid by SEN to give it, not by Melbourne to promote the club.

[Deestroy All 14,262]

More likely he'll think you're a tool.

Boy, would I be shattered.

Champion player, moron of a bloke.

[Guest unstable punt]

i agree with you nugget and on gary lyon he is a classic fence sitter, he has an a opinion on everything but commitment to nothing. he prefers to stay in the media comfort zone where he can give simplistic solutions to complex problems and not have to get his hands dirty. love him or hate him at least eddie gets in the trenches with his team

when the job for CEO came up, the club wanted Greg Healy ex-captain (CEO of Billabong, l think), he knocked it back because he couldn't do it now but then organized with CC, when all the players got together for a night with Glen Lovett( who lives and works in London) to set-up something that ex-players can do for the club. Gary Lyon is NOT a fence-sitter, he and Jim Stynes have been actively involved with the club lately, since ND was sacked antway. Now Greg Healy, Anthont Ingerson and heaps of others are putting their hand up to do something about the club. Will everybody stop slagging off all these players and people who are trying to turn our beautiful, magnificent club around.

[The Emblem 1]

. Will everybody stop slagging off all these players and people who are trying to turn our beautiful, magnificent club around.

Or at least make it constructive criticism...lest we become too Richmondesque and have to change our club song to the Tiger's tune:

E.G

Its starts with the Chorus

Oh we're from Demonland

Spitting blood and fury

We're from Demonland

And our own, we shoot & bury

You will see us on our blog

Chastising everyman and dog

If we're not slagging off the board

We're ripping into our full forward

Or Ceee A Cee's draft picks

Chorus

We're experts upon the team for which we root

Though we've scarcely laced up a boot

Most of us have no idea, thats very clear

But never mind, dont get in a bind, its all good fun my dear

Chorus

Yes we're from Demonland RED AND THE BLUE

Yes we're from Deeeee Monnnn Laaaaand

[Gouga 566]

Champion player, moron of a bloke.

Time to close this thread yet?

[Rogue 585]

Got a laugh out of me.