Pretty good summary YM. The tackling is symptomatic of a team of kids, but even so, it's pretty awful.

Who played on Hawkins?

Who didn't play on Johnson?

All today proves is what we already know; if we have the injuries we had last year, which incidentally is pretty much everyone who missed today (Anyone else concerned?) we will struggle to make the finals!

This is the first time in years I've felt we haven't had depth. A lot of talented but extremely inexperienced youngsters fighting it out against easily the best team in the country.

I do think in 3 years time, our depth will be sensational.

Who played on Hawkins?

Who didn't play on Johnson?

All today proves is what we already know; if we have the injuries we had last year, which incidentally is pretty much everyone who missed today (Anyone else concerned?) we will struggle to make the finals!

This is the first time in years I've felt we haven't had depth. A lot of talented but extremely inexperienced youngsters fighting it out against easily the best team in the country.

I do think in 3 years time, our depth will be sensational.

Couldn't tell you who played on Hawkins because he never got near it. Couldn't tell you who didn't play on Johnson because they never got near HIM.

Much of our injury list is a week or two away. Precautionary really.

Shane Valenti - gun

Stef Martin - potential to be a very good, mobile, smart key defender

Aussie - not too bad

Garland - has improved a lot since last year

Buckley - will give us what we have lacked for years. Speed through the midfield

Meesen - will play 22 games this year

McNamara - showed a bit, great stuff for a 17 year old

Sylvia - was a force in the 3rd quarter. This is his year

Jones - the usual great game

Every senior player that played thats not named James McDonald - all complete rubbish (White, Yze, Green, Holland)

I've barracked for the Dees for 40 years and pay for premier membership every year.

I travel interstate at leat 3 times every year. I go to ever Club function (B&Fs, the lot).

I live in Torquay and have to put up with the crap I read about the Handbaggers every day.

But I'll tell you all something for nothing - being equal favourites for the wooden spoon is dead right,

We were flogged today by a team missing their best 4 - Ablett, Scarlett, Chapman and Harley.

Three winners today only - Bell, Meesan and Buckley.

The rest were crap. Don't be conned by what other posters might say.

How Yze can be elected leader is beyond me. He's only interested in kicking 'miracle' goals'.

We were made to look stupid today and if you believe any different you're living in gaga land.

We were flogged today by a team missing their best 4 - Ablett, Scarlett, Chapman and Harley.

You forgot to mention that we were missing 15 of our best 25, plus our 2 first round draft choices. If you thought that we would be competitive with the side we had, you are delusional.

And by the way, Harley is not in the Cats best 10, let alone top 4.

what about the abc website..get a live call steaming

godders would of been useful on johnson