10 hours ago, Josh said:

Sheesh HAHAHHA haven't heard that one in years.

 

Out of curiosity how do you get the AFL stats pro packages I'm something of a forensic establisher myself

Josh, AFL stats pro is an AFL owned product on AFL.com.au. It has all the stats for all the players an every game. i presume it is the software system the AFL use to generate all their stats on each game.

You can have a squiz at it here

In terms of stats it has similar functionality to footy wire (a brilliant site) in terms of being able to compare players - though stats pro only goes back to 2017 and footy wire goes way back. For stats i much prefer footy wire

But what stats pro has that sets it apart is vision of every involvement (not possession, involvement so includes one per centers, tackles etc etc) - which i presume correlate to the stats AFL collect - of every player in every game going back of the start of the 2017 season

At the risk of being nerdy fan boy I have to say it is utterly brilliant, if like me you are pedant, or if  like me you also enjoy watching set ups, systems and/or just what individual players do in a game.

As an example of how i use it, watching on TV i sometimes find it really hard to work out if a how a particular player played. Live it is much easier because you can see how hard they run and their positioning.

Given stats pro uses the broadcast vision you can't really see that aspect so well but reviewing all their involvements gives a good sense of their impact. So looking at Locharts involvements shows that he has lot more impact than his stats suggest (though not his last game).

Also if there is a debate about an incident or in the games of Omac and georgiades you can check all their involvements in the game.

The video doesn't lie  and helps to mitigate against confirmation bias - though in our post truth world people still manage to see what they want to see.

So you can watch as often as you like georgiades taking his one contested mark and clearly see Omac is not on him, is in fact on Westhoff and flies for the mark with May, Gawn and Westhof.

You can also see Salem allows georgiades a free run at the ball, not even attempting to block his run and Lever, who is at the base of the pack and is supposed to be the player who intercepts in that situation stays down and looks meekly up to watch the mark.

I am amazed the AFL do not promote it at all as their website is completely rubbish in almost every other respect (use the full name of the venue not its initials for god's sake! - by the by GS is Giants stadium)

Anyone can look at the stats but to look at the vision you have be an AFL Live Pass subscriber. There is info about that here, but in short you need to pay a subscription, which also gives you access to game replays and live streaming of games to your phone or tablet.

But if you are a telstra customer, as i am for work, you get the AFL live pass for free. Which i reckon is good deal. Particularly given i don't pay the telstra bill.

I wish you good forensicing.

 

20 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Yep. And imagine if someone like ANB, Spargo, Hunt etc had put in 2 games like Harmes last 2...

You need to take Spargo out of that list.

1 hour ago, A F said:

Not in my opinion. Not after 8 years in the system.

Fairy Nuff.