18 hours ago, Demonland said:

Fox Footy's 2019 Top 8 Prediction

1. Melbourne

2. Richmond

3. West Coast Eagles

4. Essendon

5. Geelong Cats

6. Adelaide Crows

7. Collingwood

8. Brisbane Lions

The prediction looks good however we don't get ahead of ourselves.  Yes we are more than good enough for a high finish and I  expect it with the talent we have l think we'II finish somewhere in the top 4 and in front of any interstate side would be a plus. 

l want to see the real ladder in the season proper as  we progress during the season and to see us doing well with expectations.

 

 

 

54 minutes ago, binman said:

I'm persuaded by George on the outer's argument that the 6 6 6 set up won't make the sort of impact some are suggesting.

Yes having six forwards behind the arc will give players coming out of the centre more time to dispose of the ball (meaning cleaner entries). But in reality there are not that many direct centre clearances.

Also teams wanting to negate the impact of a dominant ruckman can use their wingers defensively. They can also go man on man and work to create an immediate stoppage and create a secondary ball up. And there will be no restrictions in that scenario.

As I noted in the impact of rule changes I reckon the change to the kick out rules will have the greatest impact and may result in higher scores and therefore blowouts.

I don’t agree with George.  The  centre setup probably plays out 20-40 times a game.  All of the tactics mentioned to limit centre clearances were already tried in 2018 plus putting an extra or two in defence plus extras on the square.  I don’t have last years stats but from a year or two ago there were scores from 23% of centre bounces. With 6-6-6 this will definitely increase this year.  I wouldn’t be surprised if this went up to 30% or 35%.

Compare this to scoring chains from kick ins.  We were the number 1 team at scoring chains from kickins last year at around 13%.  The average was single figures. We probably only had to defend an average of maybe 12 or 13 behinds last year.  Even doubling the best teams scoring chain efficiency is less than a goal per game.

 

 

14 hours ago, DeezNuts said:

1. Pies

2. West coast 

3. Dees

4. GWS

Happy if we’re higher. Our list is better and more experienced this year, but others will improve also. 

Keen to see the Saints, Brissy and Carlton improve. Super keen to see Hawks, Swans and Richmond decline..

 

This is more realistic.....although I reckon Richmond & Swans could be 4 & 5

3 hours ago, Watson11 said:

I don’t agree with George.  The  centre setup probably plays out 20-40 times a game.  All of the tactics mentioned to limit centre clearances were already tried in 2018 plus putting an extra or two in defence plus extras on the square.  I don’t have last years stats but from a year or two ago there were scores from 23% of centre bounces. With 6-6-6 this will definitely increase this year.  I wouldn’t be surprised if this went up to 30% or 35%.

Compare this to scoring chains from kick ins.  We were the number 1 team at scoring chains from kickins last year at around 13%.  The average was single figures. We probably only had to defend an average of maybe 12 or 13 behinds last year.  Even doubling the best teams scoring chain efficiency is less than a goal per game.

 

 

Some interesting and valid points. I am actively reconsidering my position(s). 

The scoring chains from kick out stat is interesting. It will be fascinating to see if that average across the board increases (one assumes it will) and if so how dramatically. Good to know we were the best at it last year. Might mean we have an advantage this year in that area.

Will be fascinating to see what strategies Goody (and other coaches) employ from the kick out and which players are chosen to kick (potentially different players for different strategies).

 

Edited February 20, 20196 yr by binman