I don't agree that he is a lightweight in fact I think that is a bit harsh tbh, I may be in the minority according to your post but there it is. If he is improving as a player and indication are he is, the speed at which he is coming along may not be to my liking but he is improving.

we get other supporters talking about how MFC does not develop there young talent, which is bs. But are we not perpetuating this by throwing the baby out with the bath water by calling for a young high draft picks to be dumped.

I reckon one more year for the Toump is not unreasonable or inconceivable, because the risk of getting someone in who has to learn the structures or is fresh from TAC or othe state leagues.

There are players who impact straight away and there are players who need a little time next year is his make or break.

What's the alternative? Persist with a player, who you doubt will make it at AFL level, just to appease the media? Roos has often talked about increasing the age level of draftees, and he would assess players on merit rather than draft placing.

I'd like to think that Toumpas slow development has been due to his injury history. But when I watch him play, he's slow of mind as much as slow of body, and that's a concern.

Our footy department have their work cut out for them to get some kind of return on pick 4 for Toumpas.

As it stands right now, that pick goes down as one of the worst since 2007 for so many reasons. If we can something inside pick 20 we'll be doing ok.

Worse than O'Rourke?