Last weekend Toumpas had 17 disposals, 3 tackles and a goal playing as a forward, that's a solid game, unfortunately your head is to far up a certain part of your body to notice anything but how well old mate at Port is going.

It's amazing how quickly people jump on young players who aren't getting BOG's right away, alot of reality checks required around demonland i think.

And as been stated many times in the innumerable Toumpass vs Wines threads*, it is far easier to look good in a mature successful well lead team than in what has been (to date) a totally structureless leaderless rabble, one that has forgotten the joys if winning.

*like this one has inevitably morphed into

Why do we have to fight with each other when we're supporters for the same club? if you're going to fight go to Bigfooty... hate that site.

To be honest, there's a lot less of this infighting on the Melb board at Bigfooty.

Certainly currently no anti-Toumpas bitching, or "I'll microwave my membership card if I don't have detailed info on what's going on with Mitch Clark".