is the "living in sydney expenses" on top of that?

The leg-up expense?

Often wonder if the "other 17 clubs" are more peeved at the Sydney living expenses the Sydney teams get, or a PP for the 'very strong argument' poorly performed side with a % of 54?

Hmmm, let's chew on that one for moment. How do you like them apples?

Only if there is a trade.

With pick 1 in the PSD, GWS will be angling for that.

No trade.

Yes, they don't need a trade as they will,get him through their first pick in the PSD for nothing ( except what they need to pay him of course). Remember, the player has to nominate financial terms when he goes into the PSD and this usually reflects already negotiated deals. Remember the Pies manipulation of the PSD a couple of years ago to get Luke Ball before us? This is how Martin will get to GWS this time but will still put pressure on the GWS Salary cap which may open up the possibility of our obtaining Adams from them for nothing (in terms of having to put up trades) via pick 2 in the PSD. A deal nearly as good as the Viney deal last year in my view. A great start to building a great engine room for next year. Needless to say, this arrangement would be far far preferable to our acquiring Martin either through the PSD, or ( heaven forbid) via pick two at the national draft.

It is very interesting seeing the way Roos is playing this. He is keeping everyone guessing. My guess is he is not saying no to Martin to bid up GWS's asking price for him and to keep him away from the likes of Carlton and Brisbane, but I bet he has no intention of actually doing a deal for him. Would send all the wrong signals to do with culture. He (Roos) nevertheless is a master tactician. It is wonderful to behold!

I have real concerns we won' t be able to get any of the major players we are after and may have to settle for scraps.

That is why the PP is so important.

It also clearly shows how hard it is for a club like us to rise up the ladder. The bigger clubs are always the favoured destination of good players on the move.

Lets see how strong the attraction of playing under Roos really is. We will see.