You don't have to be a lunatic but it helps (apparently)

[Carn dees 108]

Not long ago i was certain that the dees and tiges would climb the ladder together, with us being the better side...

[old dee 23,872]

Not long ago i was certain that the dees and tiges would climb the ladder together, with us being the better side...

The tigers are a good two seasons in front of us IMO.

They have started a slow climb

But unfortunately the Dees have not found the ladder yet let alone worked out which way is up.

[Irish Demon 33]

For me, North Melbourne has the worst song in the competition. It's just seems weird and patched together to me. Like they couldn't decide between two songs so they decided to just combined them.

I wouldn't go that far.The west australian teams,Port Adelaide's and Greater Western Sydneys songs are worse.The North Melbourne song as well as being very dull is also too quick.I don't have much time for North anyway their shinboner spirit nonsense does my head in not to mention Wayne Careys post retirement antics.

[Irish Demon 33]

The tigers are a good two seasons in front of us IMO.

They have started a slow climb

But unfortunately the Dees have not found the ladder yet let alone worked out which way is up.

Richmond had a better season this year than we did but haven't they only played 2 finals since 1982 and i don't think it's set in stone that they'll play finals footy before us.I think we should be looking up to successful clubs instead of another basket case one.As for the part of your post that i put in bold i think that was the perfect description of Melbourne during the Dean Bailey era.I think Mark Neeld is a man that has a vision and a plan for this club.The way Dean Bailey and Chris Connolly ran the football department has made the job even tougher for Neeld though.It's a pity we gave Bailey that extra year.

Edited October 23, 2012 by Irish Demon

[beelzebub 23,383]

I think we'll climb over the Toiges by 14

By then we'll be in the 8....... They'll be 9th.....lol