Agreed Jose..... someone who excels as an assistant isn't necessarily a gun when in charge......

.......if we apply that logic with an open mind.......

......oh no.......blind faith meets a possible alternative explanation

Possible contributor to our predicament, but not the explanation.

The explanation has been evident for 5 bloody years, yet still people act as if it's some sort of revelation!

I've maintained for a long time now -- we will not be competitive until the substantard older players are gone, and Jones, Frawley, Grimes, etc have become our older experienced senior players.

Bailey was not the reason we were bad.

But as time went by, it became clear that he was not the man to bring us out of this.

Neeld has walked into this.

And he already has shown to be the right man for the job in many ways, more than most others could.

Lately Jose I'm agreeing with everything you say...

Chris Scott takes over a hardened Geelong side and wins a premiership in his first year. This year, he loses a few seniors players in Ling, Ottens, Milburn and Mooney and now look, they are a far cry from the dominant Geelong over the past 5 years.

Previous coaching administrations build momentum.

Fact.

I think your memory fails you - at the start of last year Geelong were not expected to succeed - it was Chris Scott's ability to manage his list that produced their flag! This year he is dealing with even more significant player losses - fair go!

I think your memory fails you - at the start of last year Geelong were not expected to succeed - it was Chris Scott's ability to manage his list that produced their flag! This year he is dealing with even more significant player losses - fair go!

It isn't about expectations to succeed, sure Geelong lost Ablett to the GC, but thats basically all, they still had the core team that served them so well under Thompson. Expectation is irrelevant to the argument Bollocks was trying to make.

Lately Jose I'm agreeing with everything you say...

It's a scary feeling isn't it because I am finding myself aligning with him on several fronts as well!

It's a scary feeling isn't it because I am finding myself aligning with him on several fronts as well!

Yes and this I agree strongly on

Bailey was not the reason we were bad.

But as time went by, it became clear that he was not the man to bring us out of this.

Neeld has walked into this.

And he already has shown to be the right man for the job in many ways, more than most others could

Possible contributor to our predicament, but not the explanation.

The explanation has been evident for 5 bloody years, yet still people act as if it's some sort of revelation!

I've maintained for a long time now -- we will not be competitive until the substantard older players are gone, and Jones, Frawley, Grimes, etc have become our older experienced senior players.

Bailey was not the reason we were bad.

But as time went by, it became clear that he was not the man to bring us out of this.

Neeld has walked into this.

And he already has shown to be the right man for the job in many ways, more than most others could.

I agree also. For too many years now we have had an less than average front running playing group and once the pressure is on we leaked like a tap. Bottom line the playing group voted for the current leadership group and in effect said the old leadership group were not leaders. And surprise surprise they are confirming why they are not the leaders we need at the MFC.

Neeld and the coaching group will remove this poisonous core once and for all....

Point being?

The complexities of "fast food" list evaluation.

The complexities of "fast food" list evaluation.

Fair point to make.

I thought you were trying to go down the path of "MFC is so much worse this year than last..."