I don't follow your rationale. You are suggesting trading an uncontracted player and going backwards on a pick, when we could simply delist him and keep the better pick. Why would anyone do that?

I would certainly be happy with trading a couple of unwanted contracted players and a pick for an improvement in picking order or for a player and lesser pick.

Not to split hairs but we would be moving up one in the draft.

But you're right it is a better example with a contracted player like Bell, Newton, PJ, and Dunn.

A 'pointless' trade becomes very pointed if you are looking for spots on the list.

Not sure if this has already been posted, but James Macdonald is being offered another year (most likely to remain captain)...source- today's paper

With mcdonald playing on youd think after robbo we'd need atleast another 2 delistings.

Be interesting to see who ends up being delisted.

With mcdonald playing on youd think after robbo we'd need at least another 2 delistings.

Be interesting to see who ends up being delisted.

I cant see all of the current rookies remaining.. 1 will go.

I forsee some inspired trading in such a fashion as we not only reduce our list but improve a pick. It will be a double win in that sense.

I still think we wil have 6 new faces at Melbourne for 2010.. that means one player is simply delisted to fulfill this.

Whelan, Wheatley, Robbo (3)...... trade to increase spot (4) rookie delisting (5) a player delisted (6)

I cant see all of the current rookies remaining.. 1 will go.

I forsee some inspired trading in such a fashion as we not only reduce our list but improve a pick. It will be a double win in that sense.

I still think we wil have 6 new faces at Melbourne for 2010.. that means one player is simply delisted to fulfill this.

Whelan, Wheatley, Robbo (3)...... trade to increase spot (4) rookie delisting (5) a player delisted (6)

Got any ideas for a delisted player and rookie delisting.

Edited August 22, 200916 yr by Mr Morton

Bub, I think you need to go back to the drawing board.

well.. maybe its a process of elimination

Spencer is a keeper.. ruck stocks

Mckenzie .is showing a bit.

Valenti will either be promoted ( offered) or traded.. he may or not be the space created by trade deals. It a bit iffy though as Im not 100% how the inclusion of Rookies in the draft and how they are currently affected in trading. ( Happy for clarifiaction here )

Healy's been hamstrung with injury

Hughes .. occasional glimpses

Zomer not exactly setting any thing on fire

I would say Trent is the man in the danger zone.

Am thinking whoever is the worst of those coming off their 2 years will be told to just keep walking

One of Spencer and Valenti will be promoted with the other let go.

But that doesn't help us find 6 spots on our main list.

What's your plan for "trading" to get another spot? A Newton for pick 80 sort of deal? We need to find 3 more players - Buckley, Bartram are probably the two most likely to go.

Imnot sure that itsw one or other with Spencer and Valenti...but there is merit in that thinking. Will depend upon what sort of balance and depth the FD is looking for in the midfield.

If you trade a playe and a pick for two picks.. arguably one further down the list then that in turn can be combine with another to possibly better the quality of one pick. There will be some clubs just clammering for picks.. We are lucky..we have a bonus one and they are early ones.. Not all clubs have this. Soe cant be ultimately too too fussy even in a bad(shallower) draft as they will some stocks..!!

Who would you trade though, for what sorts of picks?

Valenti and Spencer can't be re-rookied this year.

who to trade..?? picks ??

there simply is no hard and fast nor easy answer. everything is interconnected..team wise. it all depends on what all the various FD's see as their needs and their excesses. Trade week kind of grows organically. Starts with mayeb one or two simple trades then blossom into convluted deals ..often hanging on club A dealings with club F then and only then can D trade or offer G anything etc..

If Jamar wants to be traded then we look to a deal with whom ever offers us teh best currency..either for pick or a player we need/can on-trade etc.

Valenti will either be promoted or will walk into the draft.Spencer I can see us retaining/elevating. Do we get anything for Valenti in that scenario ? I dont think so ...happy to be corrected.

If Robbo goes to another club Im not sure on any implications there either. We may get something as he's still contracted through the trade period I believe.

I can see us shopping Miller and Newton, Barttram PJ, Bell, Buckley, Jones and Petterd

This isnt to say you necessailry want rid of ANY...it just may be prudent to take top whack wilst they have improved currency due to perceived draft failings ( from other clubs perspectives )

i.e. Strike whilst iron hot...its what Hawthorn did..its what we must learn to do. its the business of football..nothing more...nothing less.

Edited August 22, 200916 yr by belzebub59

I can see us shopping Miller and Newton, Barttram PJ, Bell, Buckley, Jones and Petterd

Are you kidding?!

Ricky Petterd?

You think they will shop around Ricky?

Come on, BB59. You're getting over excited and posting CRAZY things.

Are you kidding?!

Ricky Petterd?

You think they will shop around Ricky?

Come on, BB59. You're getting over excited and posting CRAZY things.

Takes one to know one.

Takes one to know one.

Burn.

What do they say about drunken posting?

To not to?

I can see us shopping Miller and Newton, Barttram PJ, Bell, Buckley, Jones and Petterd

If it were a hand of cards (500) I would call an open misere. Dont think we will [censored] Petterd unless there is a deal there.