Lets not beat around the bush. With our list management and game day tactics our coaching staff are trying to manipulate results as they are scared to win more than 4 games. I think without all this we could prob end up on 8 wins. We ARE good enough to do that. 8 wins to me = a team improving, not a team in need of 2 top picks.

WE HAVE LOST 51 GAMES SINCE 2007.

And, no-one deserves a PP. They need it, and the competition needs them to have it.

We are just trying to abide by the system...

Lets not beat around the bush. With our list management and game day tactics our coaching staff are trying to manipulate results as they are scared to win more than 4 games. I think without all this we could prob end up on 8 wins. We ARE good enough to do that. 8 wins to me = a team improving, not a team in need of 2 top picks.

In the First 14 Rounds we won one game. That is our true Form when every Team is really Cranking it up.

Don't count Dead Rubbers in the same breath please.

We deserve High Draft Picks. Wet Coke don't.

Lets not beat around the bush. With our list management and game day tactics our coaching staff are trying to manipulate results as they are scared to win more than 4 games. I think without all this we could prob end up on 8 wins. We ARE good enough to do that. 8 wins to me = a team improving, not a team in need of 2 top picks.

You're kidding.

There are four games left and one of those is against St. Kilda and another versus Carlton.

Even if we won versus Richmond we'd need to beat both those sides.

If you think we could have beaten Sydney then you'd need to make a convincing case for why we're favourites versus Carlton.