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Didn't JT try everything to trade this pick upwards but nobody was biting? That's my memory of it. Pretty clear why too. Super weak draft aside from 5 guys at the pointy end. Even Clark at Geelong, touted as the next Selwood, looks like he may not make it. Tsatas and Phillipou were top 10 picks too and they are on shaky ground. Busslinger at pick 13 has only just debuted for the Dogs. As far as talls go, Gruzewski was a few picks after Jeffo and looks ok, but can't get a game at GWS. Presume he'll be traded. Otherwise Weddle at 18 is the only star player after Jefferson, Darcy Jones is a really good role player in the ANB mould, and then you have Joe Richards way later on was an okay mature ager. Michalaney was F/S so is excluded.

JVR kicked 5 in the VFL last time out, didn't he? Chandler also isn't a small forward. He's very clearly playing between the arcs.

Game was pretty indicative of where we are. Nowhere near as bad as we looked rds 2-5, but a bit of a shadow of our old self. Relying a lot on a select few guys delivering their role every single week - namely Gawn, McDonald, Melksham, Bowey, Langford, Petracca, Langford, Pickett, Chandler. When any of these guys lower their colours, like TMac in the final quarter today, nobody else seems to step up to replace them. Some real good youth who I have a lot of faith in, but equally a couple of young guys who are tilting towards busts. Jefferson and Tholstrup the obvious candidates, and whilst it breaks my heart to say because he did look good, JVR isn't far away. Out: Fritsch - made Sicily, the guy in the worst form of his career, look unreal. Barely even applied percieved pressure, never mind actual pressure. And I've been a defender of his. Jefferson - absolutely nowhere near it, unfortunately. Tholstrup - I said it when he debuted and I'll say it again - there are no clear strengths to his game. What was Taylor thinking? Hope he comes good, but he has a lot to do. In: Melksham - football smarts Petty - can't believe he's the answer again, but here we are Laurie - deserves another go Oliver for Viney and JVR for Fullarton are both tempting changes too. Fullarton can barely play, but there's something in his and Petty's ability to stay out of eachother's way.

Worst team to play against in the VFL when you have no confidence. Those two are starting defenders at most clubs. No need to overreact.

And for those of us who have circumstances preventing us from attending Gosch's Paddock on weekdays? Your obtuse response just demonstrates how little you have to go on to back up your points. Happy to end our discussion.

There are two players on the list from 2011. They'd played about 3 games between them at that point. The only common denominator is the President.

So explain to me what its meant to look like. We didn't see it in the pre-season games or any of the first 5. What is it?

For the first time since 2013, what I'm excited/hopeful about it seeing the coach give his final press conference and a genuinely reliable operator (Smith now, Jackson then) start the assent back to where we need to be.

This is just nonsensical. Can you explain to me in clear terms what this new game plan is? Because the eye test suggests that it is about chipping it around precisely whilst also never, ever presenting out of forward 50. Meaning a dump kick has to happen, even if nobody makes a basic error in the 10+ kicks out of defence. This is not the same game plan as modern teams are playing where they chain handpasses, move fast and take risks. Your assertion that essentially every player is lazy because they can't play footy like you want them to just doesn't stack up.

So you're saying that Goody lacks selection integrity, right? He backed Fritsch to get better when he was poor. He got better. He dropped him anyway.

They're all out of form, which means they've no idea what they're doing. Are you honestly advocating for the club to clear out an entire playing list to save the coach?

Can you explain why he laid 200%+ tackles (5) last week compared to our three small forwards combined (2)

In 2022 we were fighting for a flag. Right now, we're fighting for a win. But by all means drop Kozzy - arguably our best player - for a couple of guys not setting the world alight at VFL level. Great way to increase his trade value and keep kids engaged at the footy.

Smith is doing exactly what he said he'd do. Take a year off, become President. How can you blame him?

Yep. Wouldn’t want to rock the boat too much. If you thought 0-5 was bad, imagine how bad it would be without Goody!!