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Rather that than a safe short kick wide in that situation. If that fired up the troops, that doesn’t come close to our +1 that cremated us in the prelim.

Roos' greatest strength is probably his weakness. Pretty sure all under him understand what he wants all the time, and those methods have worked well. Only a Robbie Walls or an Andy Demetriou might disagree. But there is an element of Sheedy/Wallace that I loved which was looking for the edge (Roos would call a trick perhaps), and leaving no stoned unturned in terms of what-if. Tom Mc might just be the most valuable KPP forward in the game. He might actually be my first picked. If 2018 wasn't a blip, and McDonald becomes (as I think he will), in the top 3 forwards in the game, then Roos needs to acknowledge. Not many excuses when a team has many games that are decided by half time, to explore the what ifs. Before Melbourne, I challenged anyone to have a go at Roos' recruiting record of those that played AFL before. It was 2nd to none. Can't remember a player he let go of at Sydney that shone. But his decision to stay head-strong with McDonald for instance, meant that maybe Dunn +/- Howe were too easily let go as tall back options. Refreshing that players are honest BTW, about a less than imperfect relationship with a coach.

Can't see how Lewis will be anything other than a bonefide liability onfield in 2019. Lewis wont get the easy +1 gig anymore, not from a centre bounce anyway. I reckon he will give away multiple 100m penalties this year too...if he lasts all year. Some may argue, at the bottom of the barrel, that the new rules require an on-field coach. Clarkson, who is undoubtedly proven to be the best football mind in the game, saw his used-by date in 2016. We were an insecure beauty queen looking for a prom date at 10 minutes to midnight with the Lewis get. Conversely, in 2018 our weaknesses were KP backs, and without them we got pretty close. Would it have been enough to scrounge a MCG prelim final? Likely I reckon.

His final performance was amazing, but so was Tom Boyd’s GF. We gotta be careful making that game the benchmark; and rather what is possible for KPP that won’t fill out for another 2 years. I will take his 6 and 7 out of 10 games in 19/20; over the 2 and 8 out of 10 games that Hogan may have provided. Don’t know if the inpatient supporter base will.

I am assuming that you are reaching these conclusions based on hearsay evidence. I would say Lewis' onfield leadership has been poor. Actions over the past 40 odd games (Indiscretions, 50m penalties, losing his cool) are vivid in our memories. If he had an ounce of fair dinkum leadership, we would have seen none of this at all. Let's assume you are correct though, and I doubt it....gee the transformation in (Howe & Dunn) leadership has been exponential. Who knows, if this transformation is possible, Harley Bennell and Wattsy might be captains of their respective clubs in 2021.

Amazes me that the poster probably refers to 1964 every week. Probably refers or thinks about the 1987 prelim every month. Then there is 186 and the like. Amazes me that the poster probably consoles an irate poster, who is aggrieved at a club decision, to ‘’wait and see’ what the ramifications will bring. If you think that It is unreasonable for me to reflect on the club’s rationale over the past 2-3 years to bring in leadership (Lewis), while simultaneously letting leadership walk out the door, then let’s disagree again. If what I am discussing is ancient history, then you, I suggest, routinely reference subjects that are light years past. Your energy eclipses mine: I only have time for ancient history, and not the entire spectrum of time.

Next to Richo, probably the worst overt body language in a footballer I have seen. Never salivated over him, unlike many here. Has special talents, but will never be the complete footballer IMO. The gap between his best and his worst footy will always be massive. As far as reported mental illness goes, I reckon (no stats or facts for a change), a third might be bonefide. A third have massive resilience issues; and the other third are looking for a cop-out. When prominent people stuff up in the modern era, mental illness is invariably connected. I don't doubt mental illness exists, but it has been used too conveniently as a get out of jail card....for those that stuff up, and those that have no resilience. Resilience must be indirectly related to CO2 in the atmosphere and smashed avocado. Our ancestors would eat us for dinner. pTGR (Gen X)

Point is that surely Dunn would have been retained if anyone had any idea that TMac was a forward AND if he elected not to kick a torp from fullback. Is there a YouTube clip of his famous torp?

Fact is either: Melbourne got them wrong. Collingwood are getting it wrong. Or, their leadership credentials have grown exponentially since they left. Less confusion now.

Lever? You talking about ‘on paper’ and in theory? He is so far from AA it ain’t funny. Easy exercise for you to show the fab-four as if they are 4 aces. But what was the cost? Time will tell, as I said at the time, that Adelaide will ultimately win from the deal...easily. Freo showed us the way to deal (Hogan); whereas we blinked like a nervous teenager with Lever.

Dunn and Howe make Collingwood’s leadership 5. We apparently lacked leadership and an AA and sought the superannuant. Did we get rid of Dunn because of the torp kickin from full back? I’m confused.

Give me this fad over the plethora that AFL and elite sport have offered over the years...like pilates; hyperbaric chambers; and snow running.

MCC and MFC need to dangle a better carrot here. Should be a section for Melbourne v. Non-MFC tennant games to get priority seating, or a tweed jacket, or pipe or Range-Rover key ring.

I will admit that first viewing didn't look good, and most suspected the worst. But those that jumped on the keyboard and labelled him a 'cancer' etc... on the basis that it was cocaine, should really think about getting on here and making edits at best and apologies if they are courageous enough. Jack Watts wasn't the worst thing that happened to the MFC...in fact, if he was playing loose man instead of Jordie Lewis against West Coast Prelim Final, you might have seen a significantly different scoreline at the end. Jordie was BOG for West Coast in that game, that I unfortunately wont forget for a while. A nervous rookie would have done better. Said it for years... Jordie's blood in brown and gold....the only red and blue is the superannuation check...Jordie on field is inferior to Watts. Money is probably the same.

In the current era of trading future picks, you need to judge a trading period over 2-3 years. If we did a Freo last year, we would have got Lever for much less. We need to think about how that trade impacted our recent efforts. Even getting May, trading away a 23 yo power forward with 600 goals left in him should have got us a pick in the top 10 remaining in our pocket. The Lever trade impacted this IMO. I give us a D+ over the 2 years.

Give me May's body language any day of the week. Dustin Fletcher and SOS would have struggled playing FB for Gold Coast. I am more bullish on May than Lever to be honest. As for Hogan, Melbourne supporters have salivated over him for years. His good is very good, but his bad is bad. We don't need a sulk playing deep; and we need instant defensive pressure when things aren't going his way. Hogan will be great for Freo and he will get there. Freo have played us well. They have reduced our expectations (and Hogans) on what we should get for him (and what $$ he should be on). If only Peter Bell was here orchestrating the Lever deal, when we blinked and paid overs; when we actually didn't have to.

Freo bluffing? This has a long way to go till Wednesday.

About time we stood strong. For Lever we blinked before we sighted the other car, and paid overs. Graeme Wright and Clarko lead the industry by a country mile. We need West Coast in a bidding war in 12-24 months anyway. Roos sees Hogan as a CHB possibility to allow Weed and McDonald stay forward in the same team. Might happen in 2019....who knows.

Contrast the way that the Geelong supporters handled Ablett's departure, versus the way our supporters handle Scully's departure. During his time here, we were a rabble. Senior players and staff used to pull Scully down with the "over-training" accusation, rather than seeing that a 19 year old was actually setting decent training standards. Why would he come back here, playing for supporters that really have half a brain. Clarko is on the money. Scully has had his pay-day and will now accept unders. Clarko is reaping the rewards of trading out dead wood when it should happen; not 3 years after.

Bloody Oath Will win Coleman next year.

As long as we get Bomber Thompson to provide a bit more experience to our coaching panel.

You would be saying that if he was still at Hawthorn getting a game.

Financially prudent of Liam Pickering and Lewis. After all the club and most supporters sanctioned the 3 year deal, to a guy that Clarkson knew had little left. You reap what you sew in life, and the club and it’s supporters deserve what is coming in his 3rd year. Even after the importance versus impotence debate, the fact is that he has robbed gametime from a few that are/will rightfully look elsewhere. Experience? Priceless Steak absolutely cooked? Year 1 - Well done Year 2 - Nailed to a tree in a bushfire Year 3 - Cremated

Absolutely pweak from Bartlett. This is old Melbourne. Weak, petty and paranoid. Pathetic. But there will be some simpletons that applaud it.

Harmes TMac Viney Jetta