Ted Lasso

Greatest ever ruckman. The thing with the Gawn vs Xerri debate, i kept telling my old man, Xerri will have 20 disposals, 5 marks, 30 hit outs and people will be blown away, but Gawn will do it the same weekend, against a much better opponent and noone will talk about it because we're so used to him dominating. the absolute best games of the competitions other ruckman, reach the average games we see from Max Gawn. the guys a freak.

Pert and Roffey both need to go in my opinion, they're the heads of the ship and they're driving us into an iceburg. Lets get some real leadership, get a full external review of absolutely everything done and re-build the club to give us a fighting chance.

Jeepers... some of these trades wouldn't even be enough for Petraccas left footy boot.

100000%

Can we answer neither?

It's so difficult for any fan to be able to assess the performance of a high performance manager because we simply don't have the numbers and information required to make informed judgements. what i will say is that when Burgo was at the club the best 22 had a lot more seasoned AFL ready bodies than this season which has a mid age void, a bunch of really young guys and some 28s and over. they were working with two totally different things, and i'd say Selwyn is doing quite well considering he has a much more difficult task.

It's absolutely extraordinary if the clubs president hasn't been keeping in contact with Petracca and his family following life threatening injuries.

Orrr.... and just hear me out.... it is possible the MFC isn't perfect and has some issues to work through?

So we've hard Richo, Pert and Roffey all do interviews since the Trac stuff dropped, and i don't know about anyone else but right now every major leader of the club is reducing my confidence in the club, besides Goody who i think is presenting quite well given what he's got to work with. We're in a bad bad spot at the moment, and it feels like we hardly know any of what's actually gone on that's created the storm.

Gut feel on if the club caves and trades him, or if we hold him to his contract and really upset the applecart?

Better solution to the stress of football. Gin.

Saints can have him for pick 7, 8 and Max King, otherwise send him to the Pies.

I would have thought 100% of Dees fans would fully support an independent review of the club. this is the only way to guarantee and end to the talk of our toxic culture and to ensure we actually have the right things in place.

Even with his injury, even the hospital missed the spleen issue for hours, it's a horrible thing that's happened to him and i am glad he's getting help to deal with the associated Trauma, but using that as an excuse to try and seek a trade, but only to these couple of clubs is not going to make you very many friends. If you're wanting to go to Carlton for professionalism and culture and winning flags, you might find very quickly the grass isn't always greener, the Blues haven't won a premiership, or even gotten close in nearly 30 years.

Geez he's a unit isn't he! hahaha

My gut feel is that it's going to become so toxic that we have no choice but to move Trac on, and we'll be unlikely to get exactly the deal we'd like, though i suspect the return will still be significant. I think we'll get 2 first round picks, and a good young player and Trac will get to one of the Blues, Pies, Bombers.

I think given our cultural challenges, getting a legend of the arguably greatest culture in modern AFL history would be a really smart move, he would still be in our best 22, could transition into a coaching role and really help us to get our culture on track and develop our leadership. If we're not up to our necks in chasing parker we're making a mistake

I'm so sick of these low ball ridiculous offers. It's mcreery and a late first rounder or don't even bother calling me

Correct, I believe Trac is behaving like a petulant child through all of this, but the biggest worry is that the very legitimate issues that are at least in part fueling this end up being dismissed because Trac has approached this so poorly. The club needs a serious clean out and overhaul, we're a mess regardless of what Trac does.

In my view Pert needs to go, i have zero trust in anything he says He said " we have the best culture in 40 years" and we missed the finals and had several major off field issues He said "He's not having conversations were Petracca about breaking his contract or being traded" Maybe you're not, but he was certainly aware that was his intention in my view. if you want the fans trust, admit there are significant issues to work through, commit to a full audit of every area of the club, get things right and give us a fighting chance of being relevant in 2025. Fans aren't [censored], the majority on here saw right through the Petracca situation the moment the reports dropped, and i don't think clubs as a general rule give this point enough consideration, we're not toddlers and can handle the news that things need to improve, you're not protecting anyone coz the players clearly know.

I tried to tell him, he won't listen to me. said he's going to Man City. Honestly one of my biggest gripes with Trac is his food always looks incredible and i try and make it and it just doesn't work.

I'd probably do it for pick 8, future first and someone like Caldwell who i rate, or Nic Martin or Nate Caddy

I don't buy into the age being a problem for them either, they'll always be attractive to players, they'll hit the free agency market and continue to refresh on the run the same way Geelong have really successfully, they're a lot like an NBA side in a way, their entire list management strategy is about putting the best possible supporting cast around the Daicos boys.

Trading for Harry McKay would be a mistake, if we lose Trac on top of Gus, with the question marks over Clarry and Viney getting older we simply don't have the midfield to load up, we need any return to include high end draft picks and or good young players. A Carlton trade i'd prefer to be for TDK and 2 first round picks. I doubt they'd like that, but a package like that to me makes more sense for where we're at.

Not sure Trac is really going to like not being the big star at Carlton behind Cripps and Curnow. Maybe he will try to push them both out and then demand another trade at the end of 2025 being unhappy with their direction