Demoneyes

The problem is GWS needs players, not more picks.

That's a good point. But if they got pick 2 they could certainly on-trade that elsewhere for someone handy to suit their needs

How high do people rate Sheil?

Would he be worth:

Pick 2 and 20 for Sheil and pick 35?

It is paying overs but if each year one of our top 3 picks became a gun, one became a good decent player and one a bust I'd be happy with that strike rate.

Will Sheil be a gun? If so that's a good deal if we think we can get a good serviceable player from our sylvia compensation pick at 21.

Also we pay overs a bit because we get someone with a couple of years development not a skinny draftee.

Yes, I think that is way overs. No way Dees would go for that. While there a few skinny draftees, Nathan Freeman isn't one of them

I can't go back to the transcript of what Ox said but he said something like he was very confident that we would be obtaining for our number 2 pick a guy at GWS numbered between 1 and 10.Then Mark Allen came back at him with "you mean between 6 and 7?" Then Shiel's name was mentioned. Only problem with that is I think he has number 5? Mark Allen may have just got his numbering wrong! I think it was on the run home on Wednesday.

As for all this talk about pick 21 or 22 for Sylvia compo, I just cannot see it! It will be more than likely around mid 30's (after our 3rd round pick) or at very best at end of 2nd round which would be early 30's.

Ahhh only two weeks of these festivities to go!

Not sure if this has been raised but if Dew is an assistant at the Swans and we want to make him a senior assistant isn't that a promotion in itself? Never mind that he will then be promoted again to senior coach.

Has been mentioned but everyone is still looking at both positions as being an assistant coach

For me, Longer is a huge prospect for the future. I would rate him higher than all the tucks we have.

Higher than a nip and tuck?

I heard the tail end of that also. Was wondering others thoughts. I rate him pretty highly, and would be stoked if we could pick him up.

I don't know who was talking about it but the thinking behind it if it is true? We have Jamar (going nowhere but I beg to disagree), Gawn, Spenser, Fitzpatrick. Why do we need another ruckman?

Since McEvoy is going to the Hawks, I heard that Melbourne could be in the running to snag Billy Longer.

I may of just made this up due to wishful thinking. But I could not find a Billy Longer thread

We were mentioned on SEN earlier as a possible destination for him

Another deliciously satisfying day of trading...lol

Only another 2 and a bit weeks lol

Yes, and we should be up to 200 pages by then but nothing of consequence from the MFC!

Look - like he said - it's a rumour and that's what this is all about - if you're taking all that stuff too seriously you need to re-think..

You posted "Savage chooses Carlton" yesterday and later confirmed you got it from Facebook - hypocrite - that's twice you've done that - called people "flogs" for posting Facebook rumours and done exactly the same yourself.

You're vying with hogans_heroes and demoneyes for Most Annoying this trade period.

Annoying? Proof will be in the pudding! At least I don't post rumours about a rumour and then give no names, clubs etc. I will stand by what I have said earlier. Oh and to add something else - here is a ludicrous one for you D Swan to Dees!

I have spoken to people with more clout than coterie members. I'm not saying we won't keep pick 2 and I'm not saying Dylan Shiel won't necessarily come to the Dees. But I know the club is looking at other avenues and has offered pick 2 directly for another player which hasn't been resolved yet and the player hasn't been mentioned in dispatches anywhere. Now Im not going to say who the player is because Im not going to betray the source of my information - and the likehlihood of his club letting him go is extremely remote, in any case - am merely saying that your contention of it being Shiel or the pick kept is 100% incorrect!

For your info this particular coterie member has put quite a few dollars into the club. We shall see what unfolds!

Just to make sure I didn't hear you wrong; are you Jewish?

I do have the nose for it!

And Capt Kirk?

And sorry about that but my internet service is crap! Didn't mean to send same message 3 times! But what I say above is gospel as i have heard it. Relax and enjoy a bath with Radox...soothing

Trust me, I'm Jewish!

How do u know this Demoneyes???

Trust me, I'm Jewish

There is no such person as Dylan Shiels, it's Shiel. There is Liam (?) Shiels at Hawthorn.

Apologies, damn typewriter!

just putting this out there and i love frawley more than anyone but could we do some thing with GWS like shiels, tyson and there compo pick (middle of first round) for james frawley or shiels there compo pick and the pick they get for adams from collingwood?? we get alot more than if he decides to go next year

James is going nowhere

Shiels is okay, but he aint worth pick 2.

Shiels is pretty damn good Dallas (sorry but your initials are JR!). Would definitely be happy with him. But i have watched vision of Freeman and he is a future gun! I can see why PRoos has such a high opinion of him> Also if you listened to K Shhehan today he also reinforced this. He won't be going out of top 5!

And you have spoken to? (Not being funny but a coterie member has told me that)

Ok 2 put you all out of your misery I was speaking to a Sandy Dragons official today, he said and I quote " Your Mr Roos has spoken to Nate (Freeman) and said there is no reason why we won't take him at pick 2 unless we traded it before hand!" The word (I have heard) out of the club is that unless we can get Dylan Shiels we are keeping pick 2. So from that it is Shiels or Freeman, a win situation!

Wiseblood, on 08 Oct 2013 - 8:28 PM, said:

Interesting line here from Ralphy in the HUN:

"Adelaide’s Bernie Vince was a quality midfielder shopped around by the Crows in Monday’s talks, a rare talented onballer available to rival clubs."

Wonder if we could work a deal with them over the coming weeks that included Vince and something else for our Pick 2...?

I have said all along that I thought we had our best chance with adelaide. Yes we would need more than Vince, but MFC did say intially they would swap for a player or group of players. I wonder if that means Vince, McKernan etc from the Crows?

Patience people. Think of it as a marathon. First ten klms people are just finding their pace, next ten they try to sort the men out from the boys, next ten the stragglers are left behind and in the last 10 the rewards come for those that have made their move! Just so long as we don't fall over in the last 2!

I have my wishlist with Santa. He doesn't give those ultimatums

As I said elsewhere The Ox believes we will get Shiel but personally don't want to involve pick 2 in it. Quite a few excellent mids are available, Aish, Kelly, Freeman, etc. if you look at Ollie Wines (don't cry now!) from last year, these guys have potential to make a huge instant impact!