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I assume that is your humour at work there ET. In six years (UFA time) Ollie will probably have a brownlow, be a premiership player and be Port's captain. When his next contract expires (3yrs maybe) they will sign him up for 6-8 years. Port player for life!!

Yes, on the surface they look the same because of age. But differences for mine are: - Wines has established his playing credentials consistently for 2 years and has had several match winning performances. Love all 3 players but neither Tyson, Viney or McD have achieved either of these. - Wines has been identified as future captain material and is being groomed for that. T/V/McD may not be viewed as LG material by the club (notwithstanding we on DL think they are) just yet. - Roos has consistently said he wants to stop this 'kid will be our saviour' mentality. Just let them enjoy the game and focus on their role. - Not all good players want to be in a LG. Examples: Dane Swan, Ryan Griffin Wouldn't be surprised to see one of T/V/McD in our leadership group next year. So their day will come. I'm happy to let them learn from our experienced LG group before they are asked to step up. To Ollie, good on him. Port don't seem a gratuitous club so he must be doing something very special on and off the field.

Great video! While watching I thought the music was perfect - gave the video extra beauty and in some parts poignancy. Surprised then to read it came from someone so young! So huge kudos to: '...Jasper, a boy in year 8, composed and played the music track'. Beautiful job.

Except that he recently had ankle surgery and can't get into training till after Xmas. Same ole, same ole for poor Col.

With the recruiting of Ben Newton confirmed the club has decided that: - Ben is better than anyone at pick 40 and we will go to the draft with just picks 2 and 3, or - We will use pick 40 if a really good player is still there and we then delist a contracted player. Either way a really good result for us.

Any wonder that we wanted to keep pick 23 so much...some highly rated players in top 10 or so will be sliding to 20+

Something new...who we will take with pick 2 and 3, perhaps!

does anyone know when Rangey is due back? He must be chaffing at the bit to get back to DL.

An article about Russell Howcroft...didn't realise his passion for the Dees was this high. Another strong Board Member...we are in good hands! Life on Planet Howcroft

Can you speed up the clock H-T...I don't think I can wait that long to know if the tanking thing affects the draft and our Viney pick...I don't trust the AFL to not manipulate the rules to suit themselves...

Easy peasy BB: http://www.taste.com.au/holding.html

Hmmm...not a bad outcome when all the dealing is done and the fun and games been had!

Totally agree Redleg. We may have got who we wanted but we lacked negotiating smarts and savviness! In the immortal words of Kenny Rogers '...you've got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them and know when to walk away.' MFC have shown they don't know how to finesse the game. Showing our hand too early and getting poor returns for players smacked of desperation while other clubs played hardball (and won). Just saying, don't want us to be seen as easybeats at the negotiating table. This year sets the tone for future years so hope we get some smarts quickly. Won't be asking any MFC negotiators to bid on a house at auction!

Both are Gold!! Made me LOL!!

OK, so that falls into 'don't work category'! By the way, where is Rangey lately?

Having enjoyed a morning of reading lots of posts on DL threads I've concluded that a lot of DL's either don't work or have lots of time at work to read/post on DL.

Machiavelli without the finesse, eh!

Not suggesting HWSNBN in this thread & Tippet not chase more $ etc, more that their Manager be smarter in how he manages their club changes and not back them into corners.

Quite ironic that they both have the same Manager! First Peter Bulcher very badly advises HWSNBN on the process which made him the least respected player in AFL. Now he is doing it again with Tippet. From the HS the other day: "...When Reid and Trigg did agree to re-contract Tippett in 2009 they also vowed to look more favourably on trade deals once Tippett opted to return to Queensland...A terse long-distance call between Paris and Brisbane - between Trigg and Tippett's manager Peter Blucher - has brought an end to that agreement..." Why does Bulcher let his players lie like there is no tomorrow and get everyone offside! Is it so hard for them to tell the half truth of ...I'll look at my options at the end of the year... ala Brendon Goddard, Gary Ablett etc. We all know it is spin but they don't back themselves into a corner. Bulcher gets his guys (& himself) heaps of money but destroys their credibility in the process!

If he goes into the PSD he will be a Demon unless GWS take him with pick 1. GC have pick 2 and we have pick 3. (Unless everyone blinks ala Luke Ball and lets him go thru the PSD to the club of his choice). Fair chance a trade will happen with Demons if we can come up with the goods.

bb59 you have a weird sense of humour but I like it!

Ok. Ok. I'm guessing its the day that we get Jack V!!

Such a tease!

Except the temper trap guys didn't wear their dees gear on stage at half time

Bb59, can you please tell me what the count down is!!!!