Lucifers Hero

Jack V will be a guest on the Ch9 football show, sometime in the next hour.

Well said hemingway and totally share your views. Undoubtedly, he has many strengths that he brings to the club/team. The parts underlined are those on which he has a bit of work to do, imo. He has some ?marks on his values in decision making which hopefully don't come back and bite him when it comes to earning respect. While he will have a honeymoon period early success is essential to keep the media wolves at bay and to feed the optimism Roos has sown. The club has done everything possible to 'set him up for success'. We just have to wait and let it unfold.

I saw Ch9 ads saying Max will debut as a Footy Show panelist, on Thursday night. Not sure I can cope with TFS rubbish but might channel surf to see the Max sections.

Our Daisy is panel member on AFL Game Day. Not wearing her Demon gear...assume only guest players do but not panel members. She reviewed the Port/Nth game. Articulate, knowledgeable, confident and fair commentary. Have seen her or Ch 7 pre game show and she was equally impressive. Will probably become a Ch 7 regular and wish her well in the media (during the women's league off season). This young lady will go places in the footy world when she hangs up her boots (after a Dees premiership). Edit: Reckon she would do a better job calling a football game than BT, Darcy et al!!

I posted that nearly 7 weeks ago so its been fairly plain for a long time the lay of the land for Dunn. Nonetheless, his honesty accepting why he was dropped after the Saints game is refreshing and admirable. Thanks for posting the article 'The Dr'. Its sad it has taken Dunn so long (nearly 3 years of Roos) to realise the coaches were serious about playing their way, not his way. I hope Dunn can come back in and earn another contract. But he has a history of good seasons in the last year of his past 2 or 3 contracts. Then falls away once signed up. It seems he now 'gets it' regarding how he is expected to play. Kudos to him for wanting to be part of the future. The ball is in his court.

Jack Viney was just on SEN. Some of his comments: - Stomach punch in games is ok - play on! Pay a few $$, so be it. - Re Darwin: Felt like a wet weather game. Need to prepare differently. Can lose a few kilos in fluid. On recovery: rehydration and diet are crucial. Team wants a reputation to be able to win anywhere, any conditions. - On coaching transition: Goodwin in control pre-season games but Roos 'the big dog' throughout the season. - Christian Petracca is his 'bestie' at the club so hangs out with him away from football. - N Jones lacks a bit of power in the boxing ring!!!! (Think he will have to answer to the Captain for that one ) Some interesting insights there. Thought he was excellent, again. Jack doesn't put a foot wrong in the media. Becoming quite adept at giving honest but non-controversial answers.

LOL, bb My high school end of year bash was at the Espy with Shirley Bassey the star performer. She called for a volunteer to sit on the stool next to her while she sang 'Big Spender'. One of my class mates obliged. When she did her hip flick, he and the stool went flying. It was hysterical and to this day gives me a great laugh. Dawson went flying last night, just as easily as my inebriated class mate. Dawson was equally hysterical!!

And their was no sulking and he made more 'second efforts'. Showing growth and maturity as a 'team' player. Loved the 'Shirley Bassey' type move where a gentle flick of his hips nudged his op (Dawson?) out of the contest to take an easy mark!

This week Ross Lyon has said that if they can't make Nat believe he may not stay. Today Barlow (who is now out for Sunday's game) has added fuel to the fire: "...if Nat doesn't see the club improving and the direction going the way he expects to and wants it to, then he's got to be able to look at options elsewhere." So, I did some hunting and came across this: http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/fremantle/dockers-prepare-to-offer-injured-brownlow-medallist-nat-fyfe-a-monster-longterm-deal/news-story/80e5f67942f627eda7e02664aa5f7f41 According to the article, Fyfe is: -OOC in 2017 -Will be a RFA in 2017 -Has put contract talks on hold -Is awaiting the new CBA before negotiating with Freo It all sounds eerily similar to one of our own, unfortunately A lot to play out here. It will be the Dangerfield circus all over again! I doubt we will be close enough to top 4/serious finals next year for him to choose the Dees so another elite player will end up at a top 4 finals type club, if he leaves...sigh... Freo should have made him captain and locked him away last year when they had the chance with the post Brownlow euphoria and looking at top 4 again this year!

As PJ has many good working years ahead of him I choose to interpret that as he will be at MFC for many a year! . Along with Mahoney PJ makes our club rock solid off the field.

Update on Roos plans. In a 3AW interiview, Roos has said: - he and Tammy will start a Leadership and Wellness company - thinks Simon will be a fantastic coach - looking forward to the Dees doing well and will be a Dees fan after he leaves - he and PJ have had chats about next year but decided to focus on the next 8 weeks - would enjoy coaching our women's team. - his prior role at Sydney Academy was discussed (...we have a Multicultural Academy waiting to be developed) - doesn't see him self going to another club - you become wedded to a club eg watching players like Watts and Jones develop Would love to see Roos still be involved with the club, somehow.

Bump. In an article: We'll be respectful of situation on MFC 'mobile' website it discussed the Roos/Goodwin changeover. (Can't find the article on club 'desktop' website) Roos said: "Mahoney and I discussed it (Goodwin staying in current senior coach position) with Goodwin last week and he's really comfortable with the role...and he is really looking forward to the next week and getting as much out of it". That seems different to the Roos/Longmire handover where he left the box to Longmire and retreated to the bench. Interpret that as you will: Protecting Goodwin from media if we don't win many more games? Not quite ready? Roos just loves coaching? I think the first. Goodwin touches on the handover (or lack of) in this article: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2016-07-01/building-consistency-the-focus-goodwin He seems to be accepting of the situation. “I’m looking forward to the role, but now my role is to help Roosy (Paul Roos) and generate a really strong footy team over a nine-week period.” While many on DL and media have speculated on Goodwin's influence it seems to me Roos has been firmly in control especially after the St kilda and Port games. I am very happy to see Roos coach from the box for the rest of the year. Maybe if we win a few more games he might give the box to Goodwin for the last few games. I will be very sad to see Roos go.

I know. According to Jack, Bernie Vince has one hence my words like 'Bernie's mountain dog' and they showed a pic of Jack with the dog. I googled Bernese Mountain Dog to get the pic in my post. But I can see how my post could be read as you have.

Understood Rusty. Wanted to mention JV's first class performance somewhere on DL and this thread title looked a good place. Just remembered, JV also mentioned JKH...said he had a bad run of luck with injuries but when fit would be in best 22. Good vote of confidence for JKH.

As JV said it, I groaned for that reason. I guess if that is what the club thinks is best and it keeps Jesse happy so be it

Jack Viney on the Mangarook Footy Show tonight. Very composed. Captain worthy performance! He said: - Hogan loves playing with Dawes - His pre season scuffle with TMc was because he thought Tommy was being a bit soft...could have been joking - On the hunt for a puppy...like Bernie's mountain dog-----> Cute, eh? - Agreed with the singing of Wagner's praises. - They accept making a few mistakes while learning and practice of 'our way of playing'. - Roos pushed defence for 2 years and once we got that sorted we started an attacking game style in this pre-season That is all I can remember...

I had a look at the Club's Annual 'Heartbeat' booklet and for Dunn, Roos said: "He showed last year - and what we're looking for again - is consistency. He's showed he can play some really good footy as he did against Tom Hawkings. It's really now about him grasping what we want him to do with regards the game plan and making simple decisions. When he does that, he's a very good player. Can Roos be any clearer on what Dunn has to do to get a game!? So while his form may look good in the VFL, the big questions are: - Is he consistent (in the AFL games he has played this year)? - Does he grasp the game plan? - Is he making the simple decsions? - Can he play 'good footy' when there is no 'power forward', like Hawkins, to match up against? Obviously the coaches think 'No' to all or most of those questions. What more do people want to know? Edit: The booklet was issued during the pre season, so Dunn has known for a long time what he needs to do.

I would bet my bottom dollar that the coaches have let Dunn know exactly "what's required from him to get back". To my mind Dunn (and Grimes) are our two defenders that haven't really shown improvement in their game. I think of our 'established' defenders and their games: Matt Jones must be doing some really, really, good things to be selected for every game this year ('til injured). Jetta has added new strings to his bow: a great 'side step' and ability to attack. Tom Mc has shown AA form at times. Garland is getting the hang of attacking football. H is playing the attacking back role required by the game plan. Dunn's (and Grimes') improvement seem to have stagnated relative to the rest of the defenders. Edit: Thinking a little more about this, M Jones and Jetta are two of Roos's real success stories. Two players of apparent limited ability and deemed NQR by observers (before Roos) have become solid, reliable, first pick defenders. As much a credit to them as it is Roos.

To me, our list management of recent years looks like this: 2014 Roos' first year - everyone gets a fair go to show their wares, in particular their attitudes, behaviours and willingness to learn and follow coaches instructions. Those that clearly faulted on these went first. 2015 Goodwin's (and McCartney's) arrive - Now time for players (especially senior) to buy into coaches requirements. Those that clearly faulted on these went. Dunn (and Grimes) were VC and LG in 2015. If they showed the leadership required they would still be there. So I suspect it is not what they have done wrong but that they failed to do what was required. They might be loyal, great characters for the club but they need to play the right football the right way. Roos clearly stated to all and sundry that he was all about teaching defence first. It seems no coincidence that, of the more senior players, it was key defenders (Frawley, Dunn, Grimes, Howe etc) that Roos traded or dropped. Those that bought in to the new regime are still in best 22 when fit: Tom McD, Jettta, M. Jones - not necessarily the most talented but willing to do what coaches require and get the best out of themselves. Hard to see Dunn (and Grimes) getting back into the team (altho I would like to see Grimes play his 100th game).

Saw this pic on club website of Ollie taunting his off-field best mate. If I can put words in Jack's mouth he would be saying: 'yep, you'll keep mate!

Deemed intentional, low impact so 2 weeks is a bit stiff! Probably not worth the challenge...he needs a rest anyway - took a heavy knock a few weeks ago (vs brisbane (?) went off and didn't come back on) and has carried a heavy load so far this year.

A well deserved rap for Hogan http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/jesse-hogan-on-track-to-better-2015-output-after-another-starring-display-for-melbourne/news-story/861c3e28baf69de23a86bf700107eb86 "In 2016, he ranks inside the top six in the entire competition for marks, contested marks, marks inside 50 and goals. They’re statistical indicators for the quintessential key forward, let alone for one that has proved he can also roam higher up the field". Also 9 games in he has 23 goals; 50% of his 2015 total of 44. Will easily beat that and on track for a 60 to 70 goal season. Good enough to win the Coleman in past years. He has silenced his critics! Big time!

This critcism is rubbish. It seems Jesse went homethis week for personal family reasons. In that case he did damn well today. Judge him at the end of the year not week by week!

The losses would be easier to take if they were against the bettet teams. Perish the thought that we become like Nth and Rich who get themselves up for big games but forget to turn up for the 'easy' ones.

Good pick up. Much easier to have that structure now that our forwards and mids have a defensive mindset. No more 'brown's cows'!