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Big picture: North offered future 1st to every club bidding after #9 so clearly wanted a key fwd and probably rated Whitlock much higher than #27. After all there were a few 'bolters' last night. Given their list they could afford to go for 'needs'. They received Rich future 2nd back- probably 19 or 20 both will be premium picks as they will be first up at the start of night 2. North have given up pick 4-6 for 19-20 and a key player; one who probably would usually be taken higher except there were many exceptional midfielders at the pointy end. Looks fine to me; not fantastic but an important deal for them.

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Tonight is for the first round which will end in the high 20's.

If we are 50/50 with Allan, we can swap 5 for their 6 and plus one of 18, 23 or 24 all likely to attract nice offers as the draft unfolds. 24 is a very nice pick at the start of round 2 and usually in high demand and attracts a premium. Probably an extra premium this year with the likelihood of a few sliders.

Please stop! That is embarrassing!!

Haha! Yes, a bit of a contradiction, eh? I've never used Twitter, Tik Tok, Snapchat etc. Last Dec I turned off notifications for Insta, fb and withdrew from my Whatsapp Groups and from Demonland! However, Demonland eventually drew me back albeit far less frequently. Whatsapp I use when overseas. Back home I prefer to ring and catch up with people.

All well and good to communicate to an existing supporter base. Even then not much good to supporters who don't use those mediums. I now rarely even go to the mfc website, it is as boring as .... And those mediums are useless in appealing to new fans especially those in the 18-25 age group. Like it or not that is where the growth in the fan base is as GWS and Hawks have shown..

You need to get with the time(s), Mr D 😇

Not sure that is the case. Lots of other teams have winning streaks and didn't come close to the Hawks in the Tik Tok survey. They want entertainment, heroes and fun! What is really impressive is the Hawks converted those users to members and merchandise sales in a very short time. That takes a lot more than winning games in half a season.

At various times the GWS comms team and PR have received well deserved acclaim on DL. But the Hawks have taken it to a whole new level "Social media platform TikTok ran a competition from April to November getting AFL clubs to post content. Hawthorn finished first with 85 million video views from 82,000 unique users. Collingwood were second with 56 million from 44,000 users". hawks-won-tiktok-this-year-now-they-re-cashing-in To outnumber Coll by nearly 2:1 is no mean feat! Would love to see all the rankings. Sadly, I suspect mfc would be near bottom. On the back of their entertaining football and horde of new young followers: they have nine night and two twilight matches in their first tranche of 14 games, recognising the appeal of the resurgent team. (Young people go to night games!!) the club’s guernsey sales were up 25 per cent on the year before Football’s financial year has only just started (November 1), but the club is already up 75 per cent in apparel sales year-on-year. The club’s membership is already 7000 ahead of this time last year waiting list for the premium membership that guarantees grand final access. In some categories of membership the Hawks are up 50 per cent on last year. Imagine the riches that will follow from sponsors, gate takings, merchandising, memberships etc. Clearly, a lot of that is on the back of their 'charismatic' (smart alec) youngsters. But the club has consciously focused towards a young demographic. “We were seen as an older demographic, but the take-up in the last year has particularly been younger. The fans at games are younger because they are energised by the team, and seeing it as fun,” Hawthorn chief executive Ash Klein said. Elsewhere on DL there was a discussion about social media and fan appeal and what we could do attract a younger demographic. Game style helps, winning helps, extrovert players helps, cliches help!! We have a bit of work to do to stay relevant. A lot of clubs will read the article and think the same. Disclosure on my part: I'm a bit 'old school' so don't use social media preferring face to face interactions wherever possible. But I totally get the appeal to a younger generation. The whole social media thing to them is entertainment and lots more!

Picket I really like your work and you often make me laugh. But I reckon you've lost the plot 🤯 😉 (no offence to @dazzledavey36) Time for an evening 🍷 perhaps 🙃

Thanks, Love Charlie 🥰 Never the same after the 2023 concussion and injury cruelled his 2024. Hope for a good year from and for him.

LOL Slarti, that will keep @dazzledavey36 busy as you've just triggered a barrage of PM's to him to get the goss!! 🙃

Will Allan get to us @ ND9? Reckon Freo or Eagles will go all out for Saints ND8! Freo need his type and WCE need anyone who is reasonably good!! Both have goodies to offer this year and future picks especially Eagles with 2025 picks of 2*1st and 2*2nd etc. While it wouldn't affect WCE decisions they took a lot of heat trading out pick 3 and risk missing out on him.

Thanks for the quote. My memory isn't so bad! I don't think it has changed as again iirc that is how we got Woewodin. To your other question, we could go into deficit if a bid is in the 3rd round. It might get tricky because the draft points 'deficit' comes off our first bid in 2025 (and it would be a very low figure). Right now that is a 2025 second round bid but I don't know what happens if we were to trade in a first round pick in 2025. I think rather than go into deficit we would make a pick swap on draft night juggling our future picks to get the required points for Riak.

Interesting the article fails to mention he is an mfc NGA player and we can match a bid. If they bid I reckon we will take him with pick 79. Not exactly sure how the 'draft points system' works late in the draft. I vaguely recall here is a time where the points less the 'discount' becomes zero or negative and a club can use their next available pick. In our case 79 (or whatever it comes into).

There is no objective way of knowing that. His actions/non actions on social media aren't his attitude or behaviour inside the club. If there is bickering on the field it happens all the time ala May/Lever. And People who want to find fault will forensically analyze his public appearances. So people (not necessarily yourself) will probably stick to their opinions as they are and will remain subjective. Forgiveness doesn't come easy to some. As an aside, I read somewhere on DL about booing Petracca next year. I would be horrified. It wouldn't help him wanting to stay. Its time to be united as a club, as a team and as fans.

According to The Age scribes Oliver "...was in excellent touch and condition, and appears to be motivated to rebound after a turbulent 2024..." He looks pretty good in their picture Oliver returns early to training

Good question - I don't know

That hurts my eyes! And my head ...

Hope they hurry up! I believe we have a bit of sal cap space so should be able to match a WCE offer. If its family bring them over from time to time and vice versa.

Hey, I ain't trading McVee ...

All ears! What did he say ...

Summaries and club reactions who-has-the-toughest-draw-we-break-down-your-clubs-fixture MFC Says: "A strong MCG fixture is always the highest priority for us, so we're pleased to have 12 games at our spiritual home in 2025. We will host a strong schedule of blockbuster matches, including the annual Anzac Day Eve game against Richmond and King's Birthday clash with Collingwood, as well as contests against Hawthorn, Sydney and Carlton. This is also a very family friend fixture, with 10 of the confirmed matches – seven of which are in Victoria – to be played in an afternoon timeslot. We hope to see many of our junior Dees filling the stands at home and away. This is a great draw for our members and supporters, and we look forward to welcoming the Demon faithful back for an exciting 2025 AFL season." – CEO Gary Pert Like most clubs we avoid focusing on any disappoints.

Clarrie, looking good, moving well! 😍 That little clip should make @picket fence ecstatic!!!