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Agreed. If they had a financial target I think a ton of members, myself included, would go the extra mile to help.

Sadly I agree re the magical openings that would appear if either the pies or tiges took Goschs over. If we cant get caulfield ( Im still hoping) couldnt we try some of the approaches they might make?

About time someone brought up round 22 1976 again! lol You know what they say “fools forgive and forget, whereas the wise forgive but never forget”

Taking a moment to dream of a fit and in form trac and oliver ….and then shoving a whole lot of you know what back down a few journos mouths.

Its a good question would love a % score from anyone that might know.

He was immense in that game. I remember him crunch tackling Dangerfield. And yes, best of luck Sam. Wasn't quite to be in the AFL.

except for the flag in 21 ..oh and the 3 top finishes.

I was there for his “ breakout” game v cats in 2018. sigh. I’m also not sure what to make of Jeffo yet. On the plus side he IS improving and has quite a consistently good second half of 24. On the negative he looks like someone that will get monstered at AFL level. I’m just not gonna believe it at AFL til I see it…. love to be wrong tho.

agreed. Let’s hope the draft pick brings with it a different kind of hope.

then ontrade 5 for picks 2 and 3!

strange trade. What value for the crows in that?

Agreed. He’s interesting because he’s informed … which means he doesn’t need to smear and poke to get attention. One of the very few worthy of respect and that I’ll tune into.

Didn’t it already happen once with Luke ball? He went from saints to pies who then went on to win the flag v saints.

true.

lol..If its off the table he'll have nothing to talk about all trade week.

Thank you

Now just wait for Tom [censored] Morris...." wait...it hasnt been put to bed" Great we can get some clarity however...if clarry isnt fired up now for a big season he never will be. Love to see him be in great form again and attack the season,

he was out of contract… and we offered him a three year deal. So while I disagree with the use of the word “ easily” I’m spewing too.

To trade Oliver for next to nothing would have torn the club apart. We get another year of a way healthier version ( I hope) and if we handle it well throughout the year will get way better value IF it comes to it. I’m relieved.

Appreciate this read TN.

so....all of Trac, Pickett and Oliver likely leaving this year or next. Followed in the coming years by the retirement of big Max and JV. And the possibility that Caufield turns into nothing. Its like a welcome back to 2013....re remembering the foot of the ladder and being the brunt of the media and other supporters jokes. We had a nice short holiday at the top . but this is a fall thats as dizzying in its speed and drama as was winning the flag in 21. On the flip side. We did win that flag....and for a 50 plus year supporter that is no small thing. Its a piece of joy I never thought Id get. I for one will continue to buy memberships and support the club as fiercely, if not more than, I always have ...and hope we may re organise in some way to make our rise faster than it was back then.

any review should also explore how and why our club is leaking like the frikn titanic.

I don’t know details but if the dees are looking to offload perhaps the best player I’ve seen since flower in the red and blue then I’m pretty sure it wasn’t “ what 80% of 26-7 year olds are doing” . It may be a choice between trac and oliver… i don’t know. Honestly speculation is pointless. Just saying that pointing at Trac is easy and I think we’re all seeing now the issues he was pointing at have been running quite deep.

We can sit around and blame Trac for this…but it looks more and more likely he was drawing a line in the sand that needed to be drawn. It we want to point fingers it should probably be in the Oliver direction. And the fact we let managing him get so out of hand.

depending on the role offered I would think?