The heart beats true

How about a sign that reads 'Don't think, D̶o̶ Pirouette!'

I think the club should argue that Jack's only other option was to stay open to the impending contact which would have resulted in 2 broken jaws, blood and teeth everywhere and 2 stretches coming onto the ground to take both players off. The AFL is making a rod for it's own back here if they don't recognise that trying to eradicate the bump won't mean players won't go in hard. It will just means that they will get opened up more. It's a dumb, slippery slope.

The footy ain't that bad. Gary Ablett Jnr is probably going to be remembered as the greatest player to ever play, Cyril is a freak, Selwood better get a good highlight reel as he'll probably not remember any of the great things he does every week, and a champion team consistently beats a team of champions (still!). The game is changing and has faced some really tough times recently but it's not the doom and gloom you guys are feeling. The reason it feels the way it does is because our avenue to the heart of the game is a club that is really, really bad at the moment. My biggest frustration with the game is that the AFL needed to act last year and give our footy club some priority picks so that we could go to the footy and watch the future take shape, just like GWS and GCS have. They chose not to so because a previous administration made bad choices, but that sort of thinking ignores the most obvious fact: Cameron Schwab moved onto a new job. Chris Connelly moved onto a new job. This is their career. But for me and all of you this is our passion, and by trying to punish people who already moved on all they did was suck the hope out of the patrons of the game. You can bet they regret that decision already, and it's their job to now right the wrong and help give us a future. It's one thing for Eddie to complain that because of Melbourne's history we shouldn't get priority picks, but he'll feel differently when 35,000 less people turn up for our Collingwood game and it costs them a potential extra million. Equalisation in terms of footy expenditure is a distraction designed to draw our focus off the things we actually watch week in week out - the glaring disparity on field. We need picks.

I'm glad we didn't get a priority pick. That would have been unfair on the likes of Sydney and Freo. Oh, wait......

I think the AFL should pay for me to fly first class to the US next year to learn about equalisation. It'll have about as much effect as this years trip. :/

Maybe it's the hundred point loses its become synonymous with?

I'm so over this playing group. They have the nerve to scrap and fight after the siren and run off the ground with intent even though they just had a football spanking for 30 minutes prior from a team that's at the same place we are in terms of experience and talent. They have the nerve to put their names to articles by the club saying that the administration is 'winning them back'. It's pathetic. At what point do they take responsibility? Give me a [censored] reason to buy a membership players. Please. It's a disgrace.

Just out of interest does anyone know when the new tv deal is negotiated? What's keeping us in business is the current contract, but once it's up if I was a Network I'd want one less team (allowing a bye team each week, which doesn't create compromised rounds mid season like the current deal). I'd say we are in some real trouble if we don't improve quickly.

That Davey goal was hilarious. Tappy, Byrnes and Kent all down played it aware of the fact that none of them are certain starters each week and they can't afford to make Aaron look good. It would be funny if it wasn't 2/3rds of our pathetic forward line.

Anyone who can make an argument against our need for a priority pick doesn't have to sit though this crap every week for 7 seasons.

Trengrove is inventing a new term this quarter.... 'Captains turnover' ....and they take it down and kick a goal.

Goals this quarter from free kicks?

That 50 was ridiculous, and exactly the same thing happened to Jones out of the middle 10 seconds earlier and no 50.

Saying Tony Shaw isn't very intelligent is like saying we aren't likely to win the flag.

I know you're being facetious DeeVoted, but I reckon your point isn't invalid. A president isn't a CEO. The day to day business of the club is handled by the CEO. The role of the president is to really smell what's being offered up by the CEO and club and make sure it smells ok. The President oversees that, but perhaps more importantly they act as an emotional barometer for the club, and a much needed mouth piece. I really think Mike would be a unifying figure for the club, much more so than a former Treasurer during a very volatile political period, or a faceless business person.

For all those harping on about 'Business Minds' you'd be well served to have a look at the vast majority of our board over the last 10 years. The feeling around town has been that most business people check their business brains at the door when they serve on a footy club board. If football has been your business, then maybe you'd be well served running a football business? It's not exactly a radical thought. Edit: iPhone doucheyness

That went almost exactly how'd I imagined it would. We never once looked like we thought we could win. I'm not even sure I care anymore. It's pretty hard to when you see what the players dish up every week. The only hope is we pray for a priority pick and a coach with a win at all costs philosophy. I'm tired of 'process' coaches.

At some stage everyone reaches a breaking point. I'd like to congratulate everyone on this forum for having an almost inhuman tolerance for emotional abuse.

Players are playing poorly but Craig has out coached himself here. 2 big blokes up forward means they are going to kick high. GWS know it, win the crumb and transfer end to end with speed that is killing us. Aside from that the footy club is showing nothing to make me want to support them for the next 3 years. That'll make it 10 years in the wilderness. We don't need a priority pick, we need a mini draft all for ourselves.

I'm genuinely surprised at the level of angst about this game. We were disgraceful last week with a team that was probably only missing Mitch Clark from our best. We go in as underdogs against a side that hasn't won a game all year. Surely that's both a record, and a sign of just how bad we are. I'd honestly be surprised if we win. On the upside, a loss all but guarantees a priority pick. A priority pick entices an experienced coach, an experience coach brings self belief and some hope and in turn we can all look forward to the future. It'll be interesting viewing but in my opinion we are already at rock bottom so we have nothing to lose.

He [censored] slapped Connolly on national TV, and then in the same sentence remarked that the club doesn't need the best former red 'n blue people, it simply needs the best people. It was breathtaking. I also loved the irony of Gerald making the remark about red 'n blue people under the guise that loyalty should be rewarded. Under that logic I believe our footy club owes Gerald a public flogging and a 10,000 foot restraining order.

We will get one for one very simple reason: This is the AFL's doing. Place the following players into our team: Harley Bennell, Jaeger O'meara and Toby Green. Future is not so dim is it? The expansion of the game created heavily compromised drafts and the clubs at the bottom circa 2009-10 were always going to be up against it. The league is struggling to create feeder competitions which create enough AFL level players. Look at 3/4's of our side and try and find a spot for them in any top 6 team and it becomes glaringly obvious. This AFL presidents trip to the US will confirm what the AFL already knows. Good players and good resources make good teams and without them the sport itself suffers. 2 x 100 point loses in a day is not a good look. Andy D will literally lock in our PP with Eddie on this trip.

Cool, you guys can defend Trengove and in a way I admire your support for him. I'm just very worried that he's going to be just a handy second tier player when what we should have got was an A grader.

Number 2 picks since 2001: Luke Ball Daniel Wells Andrew Walker Jarred Roughhead Daisy Thomas Scott Gumbleton Trent Cotchin Nic Nat Trengove Harley Bennell Stephen Conniglio Jonathan ORourke Too soon to tell on the last 2 but with the possible exception of Gumbleton I'd say JT looks way out of his league. I don't think the frustration is with his effort. The frustration is with his potential to have an impact with skill or speed that matches anyone on that list. He looks to be going backwards.

The footy club needs a priority pick. We simply don't have anywhere near enough AFL standard players, and no way for those with the potential to be one to learn. It's not about the admin, it's not about the playing list, or the potential new coach. It's about the supporters. We never got more than 4 goals down but I never thought we'd win, and this is against a team without its 2 best players and a few good contributors out. Aside from Mitch Clark that was our best team. Sport is about hope and belief and we just don't trade in either of those things, and really haven't for 6 years. If we want to have a future we need a priority pick.