Fitz Fitzpatrick

31 minutes ago, bingers said:

I like Jack, and hope his improved form continues. I think he owes the Club more than vice versa. The Club has stuck by him even though he has

underperformed for years. It would be very disappointing if he left, but I think that's unlikely.

Jack wont leave. 

2 hours ago, Peter Griffen said:

He hasn't signed on again yet, it's as simple as keep this form up and he'll get a new contract, if he doesn't he can look elsewhere, the club owes him nothing, he's had plenty of time to show something and has only ever shown patches.

Its win win for the club. 

unlike some others I dont think its the end of the world if he leaves. it would be better if he stays but I dont see it as trolling to say i think he will leave. Its the reality of modern AFL football. 

15 minutes ago, Goodvibes said:

I think the key point is that a few of us here on Demonland are enjoying following the Dees at the moment and are struggling with the idea that Hogan's departure to Fremantle is even a narrative at all that alone one that you seem intent on attaching to our Round 1 victory.

If i was attaching it to the round 1 win, i wouldve have posted in the Post match discussion thread. Isnt this the Jesse Hogan thread?

6 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Out of curiosity Munga why do you think he's going? 

to clarify my opinion.

I agree he doesnt have to sign on 2 years out however the argument he should wait till the CBA is released doesnt hold water. Other players have worked around that by agreeing to percentage of cap based on current negotiations. 

He entered negotiations then stopped. I would do the same and i dont blame him but on a spectrum of staying to leaving that move didnt put him closer to staying in my opinion.

With his  interests outside footy, Perth is a very attractive propostiion. ( theres no way to know if thats a issue or not but just putting myself in his shoes. ) Melbournes a great place if you love coffee and restuarants. If you are a keen surfer youd be keen on perth.

Absolutely he was incredibly uncomfortable in that interview the other week when the contract questioning came up. you cant deny how quiet his voice went when he spoke about it and then suddenly was at ease when the line of questioning changed. (again it could just mean he's uncomfortable discussing that topic).

Most of all, I cant see Melbourne improving enough in a short time to have him want to be a part of it. He is a competitive beast but i reckon WC or freo could mount a strong case to him that he could have success over there and still get to be with his mates and family and he could easily be convinced that alongside kennedy with priddis hitting him on the t1ts would be a nice way to earn a dollar.

I have no idea if any of this is correct which is why it is only an opinion but i havent seen anything from him more concrete that makes me think he will stay. If i do then my opinion will change. Its all .

Im sorry if it sounds negative. its purely my summation on events so far. lets hope the season goes well and he will feel he'll miss out on something special if he leaves. Lets not forget how inept as a club MFC wouldve been seen in football players eyes. Yes its turned around but only recently. 

3 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Fair point, but I also have no doubt that the club would have put a very, very good contract on the table for him.  

For the record I 100% believe he will sign on the dotted line come season's end.

So your opinion is hes staying. my opinion is he is going. neither of us know yet you claim 100% hes staying. how about not accusing someone of trolling just because their opinion doesnt fit your cosy narrative. we will find out soon. In the age of player movement, thinking a player is leaving is not trolling. its reality and not necessarily the end of the world if that player goes. im not too bothered either way as any bidding war is going to be costly and as other teams have proven , an even spread of talent can win premierships without a 7 figure gun

it goes without saying my preference would be for hogan to stay. im not going to be too upset if he goes. we need to get used to that reality , especially if the AFLPA get the 6 yr free agency over the line. 

i will enjoy watching him play in the side until he goes. Never been the type to wear rose coloured glasses. I call it as i see it. 

9 hours ago, Goodvibes said:

You know that feeling we all had on Saturday when Watts was dominating, spinning out of trouble, taking on all-comers, handballing intuitively and Vandenberg, the happy recipient dribbled his snapped through courtesy of a strong Jesse Hogan shepherd? Remember the jubilant outpouring of emotion that followed that goal, both on and off the field? Did you enjoy the surge of adrenalin that goal created? Well, your posts regarding the imminent departure of the most important player to walk into our club in the last two decades is basically the antithesis of that very feeling. Why are you seemingly taking pleasure in sucking any positivity out of a supporter base that has endured more than they deserve. And you're doing it based on his tone in an interview. Seriously.

I agree al that was great. I just dont think Hogan is staying. Not going to change my opinion just because it doesnt fit the narrative of the great round 1 win. Im of the opinion hes going but im not going to worry about it. the club will be well compensated and will have a strong list regardless

2 hours ago, Demon Jack said:

I hold fears that Jesse will leave as Fremantle will likely offer him the whole dock. However, Jesse seems to have made some great relationships with the players and staff and seems to be over the homesickness he experienced when he suffered his back injury. If we keep performing well throughout this year and next, it will provide Jesse with further incentive to stick with us for the long haul. 

Regardless of what happens, let's just enjoy the ride and what comes with it.

thats what im doing. ill enjoy every game he plays in the red and blue. we will be well compensated and although nothing replaces a gun key forward the list will still be in great shape. 

6 minutes ago, fndee said:

On the Scully score Jesse is coming up a zero. Langdon obviously wasn't one of the 28,000 there to witness his celebrations at the siren on Saturday. He is invested in this club.

talk about confirmation bias. of course he was pumped. AFL players are competitors. they want to win on any given day.  

17 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

It comes as no surprise that, when I saw you had replied in this thread, that this was the exact opinion you would take Munga.

Keep on trolling, son.

An opinion that doesnt fit what we all hope for is not trolling. It just shows how much posters dont want to hear the potentially ugly reality that it is called trolling. i hope he stays but my opinion is he wont.

I also strongly believe he is gone. Anyone who couldnt pick up the awkward, quiet tone in his voice during that line of questioning the other week is just in denial. Nevertheless,  i will enjoy the games he has left for us. We will be well compensated and hopefully the Weed comes on as expected.

39 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

Did our former tunnel baller, Jack Fitzpatrick, offer more?

absolutely not

In a nutshell, our big man stocks are in need of a top up. No real backup for gawn, Pedersen is 29, Dawes is Dawes, OMac is a long way off and i think Frost is NQR.

Hurley, anyone?

go for a key backman. id be throwing a big offer at michael hurley

Anyone notice how quiet Hogans voice went with the contract questions? Once he finished with that and started chatting footy  his voice got stronger again. I dont know what hes thinking but he is absolutely uncomfortable with that subject. it was very obvious. Maybe he just doesn't like discussing contracts

Me

a bit of honest dialogue please folks. His run up on sunday was different to last year and was extremely poor. He will not have an acceptable kicking efficiency if it remains that way. it needs to be rectified and im sure the club will be looking in to it. This site borders on a cult sometimes with the blind allegiance to narratives purely becuase its a melbourne football club player mentioned

On March 13, 2016 at 0:12 PM, chook fowler said:

Sad to say but I don't think Grimes has done himself any favours with his NAB form. Seems to lack intensity and urgency. He now is probably only a depth player. 

I think we saw him in the red and blue jumper for the last time on sunday

58 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Disgusting to think that anyone could be involved with these organisations.

Undortunately, the problem doesn't seem to be going away as Richmond already have over 55,000 members.

Post of the year

14th after a mid season poor patch and a strong finish. 

On March 6, 2016 at 0:12 PM, Jesus Hoganshaw said:

I'll take it, but will still celebrate hardcore if we manage it during the season.

I'm talking cocaine, strippers, accidental flight to Queensland after a tab of acid, the works...

mate, thats a fair celebration. Please PM me when we win the flag!

17 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Was talking to a 50 year old Essendon supporter today and obviously we got talking about the whole WADA situation. Anyways to cut story short he mentioned that Mlebourne was his 2nd favourite team and he'll buy a membership for us this year and has completely lost faith in his club.

But one thing he raved on about was how good David Schwarz was good back in his hey day when he was in full flight especially in 1994. He said he rated him above Wayne Carey by a length because of his speed and Ariel work in the air.

I started supporting the dees in 1998 when I moved to Australia as an 8 year and so I missed all of his best work, so just wanted to know how good really was the Ox? Is it that true that if it wasn't for injury he would have been on par with Carey?

Geez i didnt take you for being so young DD. in 94 Schwarz was absolutely in the conversation with Carey. Carey was considered slightly better mainly because he had already had a couple of years of great footy. Schwarz had looked ok in 93 but really 94 was when he tore the comp a new one. always a hard discussion being biased toward the ox but i believe schwarz had a higher ceiling than carey for the exact reasons your essendon mate said. he was  more athletic than carey and had more of a burst of speed. a bit more 'X factor' where Carey was more pure strength. my personal opinion is that if he hadnt been injured then the conversation wouldve ended up like a 'dunstall V Lockett' discussion with opinions based on individuals prefferred style of play. Both wouldve been superstars and the ox's highlights package wouldve been a bit flashier though equivalent in his ability to take games by the scruff .

The ox was a completely different player when he returned in 98. those early games that season he looked like a lumbering giant and relied on his strength. His speed and aerial ability was gone but could still take a great contested mark and was part of our best forward line ive seen.

Where are you from originally by the way, DD?

41 minutes ago, mo64 said:

During preseason training, you always look at the draftees and hope to get a "yeah, I get what the hype was about" moment or two. I haven't been down there this preseason. Have any of the track watchers seen Oliver do something during the match sims that make you go "yeah, he'll be good"?

No distinctly missing. Do believe he will be a good honest battler however. 

On January 31, 2016 at 5:48 AM, P-man said:

Yes, well done stu. Pedomyths etc. All deeply fascinating stuff.

The bait is too tempting for him P-man. 

7 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Because ProDee you would be depriving the forum of a 'whipping boy', now that the Toump, Bail, Jordie Mc have gone, somebody needs to inherit the mantle

Watts?