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That's a costly PI penalty on that 2 point play. Could have been a 2 score game Dallas are quite capable so GB need to eat up the clock and hopefully score

Jones has been fantastic

You just never know in this sport but Dallas might have needed a TD on that drive Green Bay needs to eat up the clock so lets see how the short passes and running game goes. Can't have a 3 and out *Gorg beat me to it

Unbelievable scoreline

With a few adjustments we could easily be 6 & 0. You are too much of a pessimist and are prone to exaggeration You probably need to follow another sport as the MFC seems to do your head in. You and Wyl make a good pair ... full of misery We are doing a lot of things right, we just need to adjust the forward connection. And we need fit forwards

@DubDee I reckon he'll be back sooner than people think. Just a gut feeling as he loves playing footy and he'll be missing being involved It's still 2 months until the first game and fitness wise, he'll be good to go as he's keeping up his training. Footy is his life Fingers crossed he's back, better than ever

Yeah, it's fair to say we ruined more than the odd career back then I remember when Neeld said that the players would take 2 or 3 years to get AFL fit and I thought he was just making an excuse in advance As it turned out, we were a long way behind and Neeld was almost certainly right (in that instance)

Kozzie played the first half for the centre bounces against the Crows and was dynamic. I saw enough that night to be convinced that he's good-to-go for cameo's But I'd like him in for the bounces, not as an extractor, but for the 2nd or 3rd possession on the back of Clarrie or Viney winning the ball. In those instances, Petracca could start as a high half forward Kozzie bursting out of the middle after being given the ball by our extractors and then hitting a forward on the chest is entirely possible as he has great skills and excellent pace (and he's elusive) He's good enough to play 2 roles (forward as well) And a nightmare match-up I'm expecting a big year from Kozzie

Novak has got a fight on his hands here ... the young punk in Prizmic is taking it up to the champ Edit: True to form, Prizmic hasn't won a game since

Well at least we agree that Flower played the corridor often Which was the thrust of my original argument where I'd prefer it if the boundary line wasn't a friend for Langdon & Hunter So absolutely knowing how much room you've got as a wingman might lead to using that area and then kicking 'down the line' And I'm over seeing another inside 50 go boundary side and then get thumped out of bounds by the opposition. As previously discussed, those outcomes often leads to another wasted inside forward foray Collingwood on the other hand ..... So you see, I explain my position rather than just sounding off at another loss And you can't change your game plan in a week. We were stuck with that style and didn't have the forwards to carry out our plan (injuries to Brown, T-Mac*, Petty, Melksham, Fritsch**, Brayshaw***) And just blaming Goodwin is poor analysis. He's not the midfield coach nor is he the forwards coach (last year that was the domain of Yze & Stafford) Nor is Goodwin to blame if the players miss easy shots at goal ... that's on the players Goodwin is responsible for the game plan and style of play and he's got a bit of work to do. But sacked? With a 16 & 7 record in 2023, that's a fanciful suggestion *T-Mac on one leg ** Fritsch not fit ***Brayshaw out effected our ability to play Petracca forward

That's folklore, Wyl Something that has grown legs over the years to solidify the whole MCC/Robbie on the members wing story But it's just a story as Flower also played on the Southern Stand wing. And that's without factoring in match ups One thing is for sure, the boundary line was not Robbie's friend, he played the corridor

So we did it tough in 2021, as tough as it gets by today's standards. A reminder that we would have done all the pre-season at Casey/ Gosch's (way before the hubs) Yet somehow, after 57 years and after doing it so tough, we bob up and win the flag! Amazing! We should do it tough a lot more often because if doing it tough delivers premierships, I'm all in Maybe we were doing it a bit too soft beforehand? Too many creature comforts? Quick, let's book Victoria Rd Reserve in Hawthorn with all the stinking quagmire mud that abounds on that oval. There's a small pavillion there to house the Admin etc Ideal set up for next flag!!!

Bluey doesn't like horse racing 😃 What is true is that when we are at Caulfield and training, there won't be a horse in sight. And no gambling (aside from the Glasshouse eatery which has pokies) If the MRC ends up having Wednesday meetings in place of Sandown, that might be an issue. But Pert talked about keeping Casey anyway (at the AGM)

He was an 'inboard' wingman which points to the boundary line being on his left I need to be convinced otherwise So picture this, bub Flower is on the southern stand wing whilst we're kicking to the scoreboard end Switching inboard, Flower bounces and dazzles, takes 3 bounces and kicks another scintillating goal

Yeah, but which way were we kicking as he played on both wings, not just the members wing?

We've found common ground, Gonzo Our issues are technical coupled with a game plan that worked when our forward line was not crowded Even in that 10 win start to the season in 2022 you could see that the connection forward wasn't working all that well We cruised in the 4th quarters in that stretch. Slowing the game down, playing the boundary line, working for stoppages. The danger signs were there Winning the premiership meant that the other teams started working on a plan to stifle our ball movement. Comes with the territory but I wasn't surprised We need to get used to being a top 4 team. When you're down the bottom, you're easy pickings and it comes down to talent. The other teams can just do their thing and thetefore win At the top, teams are hellbent on stifling your game plan. Upsetting in any way possible (Maynard/Brayshaw) So we need to adapt

It is you, it's just that you don't know that about yourself I'll say it again, if our facilities were so substandard, there's no way we win the flag training out of Casey Truth is we did it tough as well flying all over the place within hubs and away from family As hard as it gets whilst the Eagles gave up. We kept at it and won the flag playing great football You of all people should know about doing it tough and overcoming adversity I'm actually surprised that you're not agreeing with me

Yes, we're in furious agreement bub but let's not forget how well we played in 2021 Our skills throughout that finals series were seriously good But since then nearly every team has flooded our forward line at all opportunities and we haven't countered that (yet) 2 years of long bombs hasn't worked for us I'm convinced that we just move the ball too slowly and we play the boundary line too much. The first thing I'd do is switch the wings so that the boundary line is not a friend to Langdon & Hunter If I recall correctly, Flower played the wing position where the boundary line was on his left. Do you recall?

You've obviously never played any sport or ever been involved if you believe that 17yo's or 18yo's are the finished product Most develop at different stages and some are so advanced that they don't get any better (Morton, Toumpas etc) Others take ages so judging them at the same age is fraught with danger And no one knows for sure either. It's an educated guess otherwise, there wouldn't be any busts But hey, if we get told something over and over again we're inclined to believe it Your problem is your gullibility. You never question anything, it's just a whingefest with you

I was being flippant, PSD Although, I do question the actual height of a few players but I won't name names!

Our disposal skills needs a fair bit of work coupled with the speed that we move the ball And way more corridor football is needed. We've got an excellent list of players with a stellar defence so why aren't we taking more risks

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Yes but with much the same list we lost 18 games in 2014. And Roos cleared out over 30 players over 3 off-seasons I can't argue with you about the coach but we had some deep problems throughout the club which led to the CEO going and a board reshuffle Some were saying that the AFL bailed us out but the AFL intervention was required Looking back, we were a real mess especially when you look at the club now

I also advocated (years ago) that the club should start swapping some draft picks for proven talent. And if I recall correctly, I didn't get a lot of support (but there was some support) And hey presto, that's what we started doing. Incredible As a result we secured May, Lever, Brown, Melksham, Hibberd, Tomlinson, Langdon, Tyson, Hunter, Lewis etc etc. And now McAdam, Billings & Fullarton. I've no doubt left a few out And securing those players went a long way to securing the flag If you had your way, we would have only have kept drafting teenagers (with a messiah thinking) without any other form of recruiting So who got it right in the end?

I never said that at all Stop twisting my words I've only ever said that drafting can be flawed and that is a statement of fact. Otherwise, there would never be any busts And you want the coach sacked as well? It's all the umpires' fault? You're good for a laugh, Wyl, I'll give you that