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It seems that way, Dockett, and the destination club just takes up the contract after satisfying the original club with picks and/or players. No matter how long the contract is for. 1, 2 or 5 years, it makes no difference And of course, there might be a level of thinking that if a player wants out, his original club might just do the best deal possible to clear the books. Get it done quick and move on, in other words I'm starting to think that way, whenever a player is looking elsewhere ... just do the deal and hopefully win out on the deal. It helps that we've got the Guru talent spotter in JT If it was still Barry, my thinking would be to get experienced talent coming back (best 15 player - automatic selection) And I wouldn't trust Barry with any picks either!!! (Swap them for best 15 talent) Of course in sports like soccer, a transfer fee is involved so a club in that sport can often set a price and there are often any number of suitors In other big sports in the USA, a club can often move a player to another club where the player has no choice but to just pack his bags and go

Sooner or later, it seems a move will happen as the talk of him moving has happened every year has it not? He's just turned 23 and is entering his prime years so on potential and from what we've already seen, his trade value would be very high. As someone else said, he's also box office so I'd want say, picks 8 & 10 (or 6 & 12 or thereabouts) Reid could be anything and by the time 2027 comes around, he might be one of the best players in the comp I can imagine the Eagles throwing the big bucks at him to extend sooner rather than later

Doesn't Reid have to remain at the Eagles for a minimum of 3 years? I've read that the first 20 picks in the draft have to serve a mandatory 3 years now (change happened May 2024?) As for Kozzie, is this going to be a yearly occurrence? With JT's Midas touch at drafting, getting 2 decent picks for Kozzie may not leave us short and we might in fact, win on that sort of deal But he is such a talent and has the capabilities to be a top 10 player in the league. On potential alone, the 2 picks would have to be top 10 picks

Thanks Grr-owl And yes, the footy dept. need to be hard at ... in many ways, their work now begins even though it's already the off-season Recruit, Recruit, Recruit and get an absolute commitment from the playing group. All our players need to make sure they are in good nick before pre-season begins. No excuses Goodwin, McQualter, Williams, Richardson, Chaplin, Taylor, Lamb & Co need to put together a list to challenge again There's going to be around 10 changes to the list with all the retirements & delistments but (in my view) I'd be keeping T-Mac & Melksham around to add that all-important experience and back-up Won't cost the club a great deal and if we do bring in a number of youngsters, we'll need a nice balance on the list I'm football dept. and player talent focused as all the rest of the noise will die down eventually anyway

You might be right with Trac as a decent deal seems like a long shot I'm a forgiving soul so if we can pursuade him into at least playing next season (and then re-evaluate) most, if not all, will get behind him It's been an absolute roller-coaster of emotions ranging from anger to dissolutionment to acceptance, back to anger and then all the way back to that he's possibly playing for us again I couldn't blame anyone for lashing out and those not lashing out are possibly suppressing their true feelings We're allowed to change our minds But if a deal does eventuate, c'est la vie I reckon we win either way especially if the deal is a good one or if Petracca nuckles down and gives us his best

I reckon one would have to be a rusted on Democrat to be inspired by that Yes, now that's impactful but I could never vote for him Mitt Romney, yes!!

Loved it but when he talked about his own shortcomings, it got a bit weepy What would have worked better (for me) is how he ended up as head coach and all the struggles to get there (knock backs etc)

I vaguely remember old dee saying that he was going to have a break but then he posted for a little while after that A delayed break? I haven't seen Straight Sets Simon (formerly Clint Bizkit) for 6 months. Hope he is well too

What about player abuse? You've got a lot of people well covered there You can have a contrary view but I don't have to agree with it So let's agree to disagree. If you reckon that we've got no hope, you may as well give up now. I mean, why put yourself through all that pain Personally, I don't for a minute believe we are heading for oblivion Let's see your views after the trade week. I'm betting that you will change your tune (again)

I'm not ruling out trading picks for established talent, but my focus for now was JT turning picks into gold As for your disdain for giving out likes, it says a lot about you as a person You only listen to your own voice as there have been 10's of thousands of posts that you could have liked but chose not to give credit

Contrary views are great and I would fight for the rights of those views and the people saying it But we're allowed to disagree I played a fair bit of local sport and you were never allowed to give up So does that rule apply to us spectators? Well, kind of, because there is going to be disagreement in that area

You're the same person who never shuts up about going to the draft instead of swapping picks for established talent You're a true believer (in the draft) and now they are children? As usual, you change your own argument to try and win an argument. You rarely, if ever, like anyone else's posts. 24,000k likes received and 170 likes given? By far, that's the lowest ratio on this site.

Losing talent can easily be turned into a positive and as you said, Tassie are going to swallow up a majority of picks from when (2027? 2028?) So by default, we get to strike early and set ourselves up for at least 5 years (that's if we get a raft of picks in the 1st & 2nd round) So if players want to go, go. We drive a hard bargain so as to at least break even on trades and thus, replenish And we've got Jason Taylor Although we aren't really looking, a number of other club's head recruiters wouldn't have anywhere near the strike rate that JT has So yeah, I'm hanging my hat on draftees & JT but I feel like I'm backing Winx or Black Caviar!!

You are a self confessed pessimist and true to form, your miserable prognostications come to the fore again I don't agree

Well I was talking to someone who just completely dismissed the crux of my argument. Quite literally, their comment was about just giving up Clubs can win big despite having issues running through a club Not ideal, but In fact, the FD & players can just get on with it and stay focused. Ok, the thread topic might look a bit over-the-top but the content can show that a club can stay strong and still win Of course, I'm not for a minute saying that the club doesn't have a few issues. I'm no company man But on the football side of things, we can build and contend again

Of course we can contend again but I wasn't talking like I am (now) in early 2013 as our player talent levels and everything else about the club stunk to high heaven (back then) In fact, I was calling for a total clean out back then and got shouted down, left, right and centre Not long after the AFL stepped and soon after PJ took over and the rest is history Different circumstances but this time we've got a way out of the mire So if you want to focus on the football side of things, which is the thrust of this thread, then we can continue to build a top class list with JT as our strongest asset Or, people can throw their hands up in the air and give up.

We've got a few at the club copping a bit of heat right now, but not (arguably) our most valuable asset ... Jason Taylor So, no matter who might leave, what we get back in return (draft picks) can be placed in the hands of JT and away we go It's even possible that we could end up with a couple of picks (this year) that we could swap for picks for next year's off-season (factoring in if 2 high profile players end up leaving) So the thrust of my argument doesn't focus on the issues the club might have but more so a present and future talent point of view The actual football side of things My mantra has always been X amount of good players equals X amount of wins (roundabout) I formed that view in the 70's & 80's when we didn't have many good players yet a number of other clubs did have lots of good players They won and we lost. It's as simple as that. So get talented!! The backroom stuff can be seen as more of a distraction that needs to be sorted out Meanwhile, we keep building a winning list

It's either that or BBP haha

How is it all going back on the vinyl, rjay It's something I'll no doubt do down the track (someday) I've heard new vinyl is a tad expensive but that earthy sound quality would make it worthwhile, yeah? And do all the modern artists offer a vinyl alternative?

Post them up here, E14 3 road teams though (and it's a lot harder than you could imagine) But from this year, we are awarding 1 point if you get 2 out of 3 correct (3 points if all 3 are correct) Bonus weeks and bonus points apply as well Scroll up to the top of this page to see (my post) on how it all works

So, are we in need a bit of chillout jazz/rock? (or however else you might describe Steely Dan's Gaucho) Terrific album, all the same (all 7 songs from the album will play)

Well there you go, I'm not at all surprised Do the right thing, be loud and proud about it Do the wrong thing, eerie silence The plan has been stuck to, by my reckoning. And stayed on script

And of course the big ticket in town this Sunday is the good old Ringwood RSL (3.30pm) where what's his name is gonna speak But will he speak? Will the words be leaked to the proprietor and then said? All will possibly be revealed Sunday. Stay tuned

His camp are deflecting away from the real reason he wants out - Money I'm not suggesting that the club doesn't have the odd issue or 2 but make no mistake, this is about his earning capacity and he wants the football world to believe that it's not about the money So the pile on will continue Meanwhile, our club has to stave off the football world coming at them but worst of all, it's own supporters piling on And it's always about the club for my liking. Individuals come and go and selfish individuals need to go quicker

I wouldn't be siding with a self centred, money-hungry divisive figure like HWSNBN (II) He'll get support elsewhere as opposition supporters and the media like nothing more than weakening a rival or a club that is in the gun ... so it's always the club's fault, not the fault of the selfish, divisive figure Those people here who have played a bit of sport know full well how even one bad egg can destroy a club That type of figure can divide the playing group and it's often the coaching that cops it in the neck as a consequence So the club really is bigger than the individual. By siding with the aforementioned, you're not helping your club We should just take what we can get for him (some club will pay up) and get on with maintaining the team ethos