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The race could feature a blanket finish. And there might be a bit of give in the ground with rain forecast for most of the morning. As much as I'm liking the parlay/multi/best bet concept I do like my trefecta's D77... going all over the place this weekend too (Caulfield, Rosehill, Ascot, Sha Tin) All feature races (Group/Listed) and all smallish fields. Just the way I like it. The Manfred Stakes (Race 8 Caulfield), Scenic Blast Stakes (Race 6 Ascot) & The Centenary Vase (Race 3 Sha Tin - Sunday) all look to be good betting races despite the fields being small. Along with the Expressway Stakes (Race 7 Rosehill) of course. The W J Adams Stakes (Race 6 Caulfield) has an odds on favourite running (Snitty Kitty) and if it wins the race the Trifecta may not pay a great deal.

The topweight (Top Striker) is out as well now ... although it was a 100-1 shot and the other horses won't have to worry about getting around it! Ace High is still not liked ... 17-1 seems overs even if the trip is a bit short. I had settled on Global Glamour & Goodfella as my 2 to win (in a 2 - 5 - 5 multiple trifecta) but I'm putting Ace High in as the replacement for Goodfella. Thronum won last Friday night's Australia Stakes starting at 5-1 in a 6 horse field - yet the Trifecta paid $244. Australian Group & Listed Races

Now I'm going to have to do the same The punters lament indeed D77! I will be more circumspect next week!

I've made up my mind as well ... Best Bet - Rosehill Race 9 No.8 Don't Give A Damn I'm probably going to multi up our combination 'Each Way' and then have a bit on the combo to win only in a separate bet. If we only end up with 3 best bets that's ok - we all have the option of adding on to the combo if we so wish. I like your choice @Demon77 ... as you said, 'Eurack' has put in 3 outstanding efforts for it's 3 runs.

Gee it adds up doesn't it? Had a look at Caulfield tonight and there's a few there that might stand out. But I'm more interested in others thoughts with that meeting. 'Don't Give A Damn' was very impressive last time it ran and ran a slick time over the 1400m (1:21.86) But the Trainer (Danny Williams) says the horse is looking for a mile (it could be set for a Doncaster Mile run) I do like it over the 1300m this time around though (against this lot) - and it has drawn well for a horse that will be ridden forward. 'Bye See' is probably my 2nd pick now over 'Kopi Lewak'. I'll probably put my best bet in tomorrow night.

Leaderboard in the Comp (post-season) 7 - Clintosaurus, Macca 6 - Go the Biff 4 - Dappa Dan 3 - JV7, Gorgoroth I really should be picking the Pats to win as that's who I would pick if I had to put money on the game. But to make it interesting and because I really would like the Eagles to win I'll go for an historic Philadelphia victory. Eagles 24 Pats 21

In the Expressway Stakes I found 5 or 6 horses out the 8 horse field that can win (the same 6 horses that you mentioned) Looking forward to the race though D77 - the race might paint a bit of a picture for a number of the runners down the track. Being 1200m at WFA opens up a number of future possibilities. The C F Orr Stakes works in a similar manner (more so the upcoming 1600m & 2000m Group races in the Autumn calendar) The smaller quality fields are often really hard to decipher ... and that's why the trifecta can still pay $250 or more. The First 4 the same. It's interesting the things one gets told that gets remembered ... for instance, pure WFA horses that drop back to the handicap races or Group 3 or Listed races. Those 7th & 8th placings being 2 or 3 lengths off the winner in WFA races can therefore read as good form. As an example, you picked up on a former Group runner in 'Lite'n in My Veins' in one of the Zephyr races (it ran 2nd) Burning Front was another example a few weeks back (when it won)

My way of finding a standout horse (whether it works or not is highly questionable Wadda ) is to first of all work from the bottomweight up (or the last horse listed in any given field) And I usually only ever look at Group Races/Listed Races. I then start grading the horses as follows ... N ........ No MP ..... Maybe a Place P ........ Place PW ..... Should Place, Might Win WP .... Can Win, At least a Place W ....... Should Win I tried it with a number of the Rosehill Races and then thought I'd throw a few picks out there to see what others thought. It gets tough finding a standout when I start finding multiple horses that should win! My best bet won't be coming from the Expressway Stakes or from Caulfield. Will probably do a few Tri's in the Manfred Stakes & The W J Adams Stakes though (as well as the Expressway Stakes) With regards to my initial picks at Rosehill I marked 'Don't Give A Damn' & 'Kopi Luwak' on top then 'Bye See' then 'From Within' ... and they've predicted a bit of rain for Sydney on Saturday too (clearing up as the day goes on) Right now the track is a Good 4.

Kopi Luwak is my 2nd pick D77 but at this stage it's paying around $2 where as Don't Give A Damn is good value at about $4. I didn't necessarily see it as the standout horse but the race analysis has it as the standout horse. Both horses have drawn good barriers. By the way, Ace High has drawn the No.1 barrier. There's a reasonable field in the Scenic Blast Stakes at Ascot later on Saturday. For me it's more of a trifecta race.

I'm in 2 minds with the Expressway Stakes ... I keep looking at Ace High thinking it will fight it right out to the finish and Goodfella could be flashing home. As a trifecta race - definitely. Best Bet - maybe someone else can see the horse to pick. I like a few others at Rosehill but again, it's early doors and would like to see all the fixed odds. I'm looking at 1 best bet out of these 4 possible picks ... I'm leaning towards 'Don't Give A Damn. Let me know what you think fellas. Race 1 No.2 ... From Within Race 5 No.12 ... Kopi Luwak Race 6 No.9 ..... Bye See Race 9 No.8 ..... Don't Give a Damn All the Rosehill Races - Feb 3rd The W J Adams Stakes & the Manfred Stakes at Caulfield both have interesting fields.

I like Tosen Stardom although Thronum won the lead-up race last Friday night (The Australia Stakes) ... Mr Sneaky ran 2nd and Brave Smash needed the run (apparently) and ran 5th. I was impressed with the run of Tshahitsi on Saturday but it looks like the horse has been withdrawn. Hartnell & Johannes Vermeer have real claims too. And then there's Humidor and a few others! It's a multiple trifecta race for mine. I've had a bit of a look at the Expressway Stakes (the Ace High race) and 'Goodfella' is at good odds (9-1) .. the horse ran a 1.5 length 2nd to an ultra impressive Pierata in the Gold Coast Guineas. Race time 1:21.0 for the 1400m. Early doors but it might be a go for the place although I reckon it can win. Australian Group & Listed Races

Here's the annual Super Bowl Prop Bets Podcast with Bill Simmons & Cousin Sal The podcast starts off with a story about a very interesting encounter that Bill Simmons had earlier in the week and they then discuss many of the 140 prob bets. I haven't listened to the majority of the podcast yet but it's usually good for a laugh.

Yes, well done @Wadda We Sing and to those who you contacted. We'll get to 100 pages before you know it ... especially with the best bet/tipping comp being in operation. I reckon a good number of regular contributors would be 8 - 12. The more the merrier really. We may not get to that number but we've now got a few things in place to attract some more punters. Had a sneak peek at the first big Group 1 of the Autumn (Details - The C F Orr Stakes) and there's any number of familiar names entered. It's a really good field.

Ha ha ha! Playing cricket we would change the tea break time for the Caulfield Cup. 22 flanneled fools and an umpire hovering around the Sanyo transistor. Back in those days everyone had a bet.

Back in the day when I was a W & P punter I'd sometimes go 10 the Win & 20 the Place (that sort of ratio) ... 'Ace High likes to lead and we know it boxes on extremely well. And the Caulfield straight isn't overly long. Needs a decent barrier draw, all the same.

Well I played cricket for over 30 years (on a Sat arvo) so I never used to have the opportunity to go to the Spring Carnival. During the winter I was either playing footy on a Saturday or I went and watched the Demons play on a Saturday - so the races missed out then too. The transistor ruled! (the tranny) That all changed when I stopped playing cricket and when the Demons started playing predominantly on Sunday's (from when Joe Gutnick was Pres?) ... which happened at the same time. So I've got used to having my Saturday arvo's free for the races. Making up for lost time so to speak. But I'm with you though Wadda - footy every week on a Saturday with all the scores from the other grounds was great. I'm glad I lived in that era. You'd go and see a band afterwards whilst Sunday's was nearly always playing golf with a hangover!

'Ace High' has been entered for the Expressway Stakes at Rosehill on Saturday ... 1200m only though so it might be a bit short. However, it often pays to keep a lookout for these class horses dropping back in distance ... the horse has been ridden forward for a lot of its races.

Well that's the crux of it D77 ... Saturday afternoon AFL is often filled with ordinary match-ups and there's no AFL on free-to-air Saturday afternoons anyway. Because of that, people look for other things to do or watch. Rugby League & Super Rugby avoids Saturday afternoons so what's left? The Thoroughbreds or local sport.

It's a terrific go-to listing isn't it! Whilst the racing calendar might seem like a chaotic schedule to non-aficionados, that link to all the Group races makes sense of it all. I especially like the write-ups for the Group 1's or Group 2's where it's mentioned how the acceptors arrived at those races via certain lead-up races. That stuff helped me at the Ascot Carnival. I'll try and remember to copy & paste the link every time we go to a new page. It's going to be quite a challenge coming up with our 'best bets' ... I've done that sort of thing with mates before putting a trifecta/first 4 together but not so much with multi betting. I might end up trying to find something at Rosehill (early doors) So where does everyone have the most luck/best results? I much prefer Flemington/Randwick/Rosehill but I've had a few decent collects at Caulfield/Moonee Valley. I like Ascot (WA) but have only had sporadic bets at Eagle Farm/Doomben/Morphettville. But because the Demons rarely ever play on a Saturday arvo (2 games this season) the Qld & SA carnivals could well be front & centre this time around. Sha Tin for the big events is becoming a favourite too (especially when they race there on a Sunday) And the big races from Europe have great appeal - I kinda like the thought of having a trifecta or 2 in those big European races and then waking up on a Sunday morning with a healthier account!

Yep, spot on. That race (The Everest) has just been accepted as part of the landscape straight off. With that sort of money on offer it's bound to attract the connections of a number of the International horses (including a few that ran at Sha Tin today) Anyway, I posted up the following link (see below) a couple of months ago but here it is again ... click on any of the races for a summary and a write-up of how each of the races are often stepping stones to the other bigger races. There's actually a bit on next weekend Wadda ... a prelude of better things to come. . Australian Group & Listed Races

I was testing the water a bit on this thread mentioning Mr Stunning & Werther. I doubt anyone was going to back Mr Stunning at those prohibitive odds but Werther was worth a gamble. Mind you, the TAB didn't have the races from Sha Tin up until this morning and they didn't offer any fixed odds either - typical. Another point on the 'Best Bet' ... if I really like any of the choices I'm going to try and say as much. That way, we can extra opinions on a horses chances if we end up with 5 - 8 choices and want to narrow it down.

It's a system that can give constant returns and the odd decent return (Small field/Group 1) Mr Stunning needed to run out of a place for a good dividend. I usually like to go 3-5-5 or 2-6-6 when there's a hot favourite involved. Or just avoid the race altogether. Both feature races were keenly contested and Werther raced well for 3rd in the Stewards Cup (paid 3.30 - that's ok in a multi) By the way, in the sprint race the trainer was in charge of the first 3 placegetters so maybe it was time for the 'Pin' to win! Hmmmmmm - That's an old 'Hayes' play (through the generations) 2 of the horses to watch out for (down the track) from the 2 Group 1 races are ''Beat the Clock' & 'Fifty Fifty'. Both were stepping up to Group 1 , both placed and were running home very well. Anyway, doubling one's outlay is never a bad thing D77! And with regards to our best bets I'll try and post up some links to some of the quaddie races sometime during the week - there's 3 or 4 decent races (SW / WFA) next weekend that are worth a look at. The weekend after that it all begins in earnest!

It's my reckoning that the horse will run 3 races in Sydney during the Autumn Carnival and then head off to Europe to contest those 3 races it has been possibly earmarked for. 4 races in either hemisphere is too many if that's the plan. After that they'll either retire the horse or it might possibly run in one more Cox Plate. It's either/or but I favour the former argument. Which would be a shame because if it could win a 4th Cox Plate it would be a fantastic thing to happen.

My first Cup Day in attendance was way back in 1976 - pelted down all day but I backed the winner (Van Der Hum) ... so crowded that we didn't even see the race. Those were the days! Anyway, it would have to be a super horse to win the Melbourne Cup 4 times. And it would probably have to win the race as a 3yo to have any chance. You never know, it's a real long shot but it may happen. Winx could win the Cox Plate for a 4th time (that would be a record?) but I'm not sure it will ever contest the race again. Think I'm right in saying that Winx is a 6 year old (right now) so it would be a 7 year old next Spring.