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It is not really my list loges although it might look that way. I see it as the MC's list based on how they select teams. And the better players stand out anyway. Anyway, my point is that our good players are collectively well down on form ... thus, it is a struggle to win games. Back 6 or 7 years ago we hardly had a decent player so the losses were inevitable. Wins were never expected. Again, pointing the finger at the lesser lights or fringe players is pointless. They are never going to be difference makers anyway.

Best 15 Lewis - injured Lever - injured May - injured Petracca - not doing enough, not impacting games Harmes - ditto Jones - ditto Viney - ditto Melksham - ditto T-Mac - ditto Jetta - ditto Hibberd - ditto Gawn - playing ok - can do more Salem - playing ok - can do more Brayshaw - playing well Oliver - playing well. So how do you win games with that output? The answer is you don't. Injuries can be used as a reason but poor form is poor form ... and if you are out there, you're deemed as 100% ready to go. So there are no excuses. Others Fritsch - playing ok vandenBerg - injured Neal - Bullen - not doing enough, not impacting games. As always, it's all about our senior players and/or our best players.

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We just looked undermanned (again) We need our best players available and playing well and we're a long way short of that. So if you work from the results backwards there's your logical explanation. We'll come good at some stage, all's not lost. Expectations are/were through the roof though so thus the angst & frustration. But my motto has always been - you win games with your good players available & playing well otherwise you're highly likely to lose. This sort of reminds me of 1995 - 1997 when we had all those injuries to our best players. Talent wins - there's nothing surer. No good wasting time arguing about the merits of non-difference makers ... they really aren't the problem because they are never going to be top players. But if you list our best 15, about 2/3rds are either not available or not playing well. And that is a fact, not an opinion. Again, at some stage we'll come good but unless that happens in the not too distant future, finals are a stretch. I reckon we'll win at least 10 games from the next 19. I've already come to terms with our season. But there again, I'm an absolute realist. 

We just looked undermanned Wadda ... we need our best players available and playing well and we're a long way short of that. So if you work from the results backwards there's your logical explanation. We'll come good at some stage, all's not lost. Expectations are/were through the roof though so thus the angst & frustration. But my motto has always been - you win games with your good players available & playing well otherwise you're highly likely to lose. This sort of reminds me of 1995 - 1997 when we had all those injuries to our best players. Talent wins mate - there's nothing surer. Again, at some stage we'll come good but unless that happens in the not too distant future, finals are a stretch. I reckon we'll win at least 10 games from the next 19. I've already come to terms with our season. But there again, I'm a realist and like acting in a practical manner. Anyway, let's see if we can snag some winners to bring a bit of joy! Edit: Just got the first winner at Randwick (Bivouac) thanks to Brad Davidson's Racing Service ... so there's a good start Wadda!

The classy horses have a habit of getting into the finish in the big handicaps. And Alizee might be giving weight away but it is not carrying any more weight than it normally does - and it runs quick too ... especially over the mile. I'm expecting Hartnell, Le Romain & Shillelagh to run bold races too. All those horses have the class. Microphone looks a good bet and I had it marked on top before you put forward your tip Wadda ... and DZ's choice 'Thunder Cloud' is another that I had a small win bet on as 'Gator' has it marked on top. To sum up - very comfortable with our 3 picks and I've already taken the early double (Microphone & Alizee) as well as the treble. And we are coming off a nice collect on Monday morning. Fingers crossed!

I'll have to do the Eureka Centre one day - sounds really good. And as for Shoals, I will put together an exacta of some description which will have Shoals at the top along with 2 or 3 others. And a couple more for 2nd. With the race being as open as it is (along with the Sires Produce, Doncaster Hcp & the Derby) the exotics are sure to pay well. All 4 feature events are terrific betting races. Really like your 'Microphone' pick and 'Alizee' is now sitting at $10. That's got to be overs for such a classy performer. You can get $6.50 for Microphone as well now so if our multi gets up we'll be swimming in it Wadda!

No it possibly won't DJ although I do hope that you are right Essendon are well protected though ... where as we are the easy scapegoat. There is nothing fair about this whole caper but that is the world we live in. My way of dealing with it all is to lose my emotional attachment to the AFL but at the same time strengthening my emotional attachment to the Demons. It's the MFC and that is it now.

Won't matter BBP ... none in our media know how to broaden arguments I find nearly all of our footy media to be like the people they are feeding - make if that what you will. The big picture of tanking will never be addressed because it doesn't sell. So we will remain the sole focus

Make no mistake ... tanking & PED use still goes on to this day Individuals & clubs are just a lot smarter in how they go about transgressing Big picture - Warts and all - Look in the mirror first. Sport has become like politics & religion ... mostly bs.

We tanked ('97, '03, '08, 09' and possibly even in 2014) but no Demon supporter should give a f/f There is nothing to feel guilty about ... whilst we have a draft tanking will always exist as a matter of course. But again, since the mid 90's tanking has happened nearly every year and often on multiple occasions in any given year It is best to work backwards to find the 'culprits' ... e.g Collingwood received picks 2 & 5 in 2005 but lost their last 8 games after being 5/9 after round 14. No Pendlebury, no flag? So the risk paid off. Pie fans don't feel guilty either .. again, they could not care less They got their flag and that is all that matters.

How on earth can Shoals be $12 in the TJ Smith? It is such a good horse and a proven performer on the big stage ... Ron Dufficy reckons it should be $5 but the horse always seems to way overs in the betting.

Best Bet Randwick Race 9 No.3 Alizee $8.50

Ha ha! ... very true Wadda I reckon we had the worst run in drafting ever ... no other club comes lose. Abject failure after abject failure yet all had stellar junior career's and close to 100% of our supporters were all-in on the picks. The list of failed first rounders is simply astonishing. And if Petracca doesn't get to at least B+ standard, he will cop grief for his entire career ... I can almost guarantee it "He's supposed to be a Star" is the belief system. But you'd probably have to go to Philadelphia (sixers) in the NBA. Started tanking years ago and then kept picking duds. But they were never perturbed and they just kept on tanking - year after year after year ... and now they've finally got a decent team. Go figure!

At least a dozen clubs have tanked and it has happened about 40 times. And it still goes on. Why should any Demon supporter feel one ounce of guilt about tanking? Seriously? So we tanked, who cares? I don't and never will. I'd happily see the club tank again if needs be. And I suspect we did tank in a very subtle way in 2014. Rule of thumb ... If you think a club is tanking, they are probably tanking. But there again, the draft is severely flawed anyway so you can tank for garbage returns. That's the risk but again, it's a risk worth taking. If we had have better returns through our tanking, the tanking investigation would never have happened. Ask Hawthorn & Collingwood - both teams tanked and then won premierships. So it is risk/reward/kick in the guts. As an example, Carlton have tanked at least 6 or 7 times (including last year) ... and every Carlton supporter I know freely admits that their team tanks regularly. They are not ashamed either - they couldn't give a f/f. It's as if the footy public & footy media are continually outraged about something that occurs regularly ... they're either oblivious to the obvious or are so attached to footy that they simply don't want to know about it. I suspect the latter explanation is more apt. Footnote ... tanking has probably occurred in the USA over 200 times in the last 20 or 30 years. Same circumstances - a draft and people are the same all over (i.e all humans have the same exact traits - greed, cheating, envy etc etc) And the yanks couldn't care less about tanking - it's an ancient, irrelevant story over there.

What an iconic race is the Doncaster Hcp. Will class prevail (Hartnell, Alizee, Le Romain) or maybe a 3yo lightweight chance? (Brutal, El Dorado Dreaming) Land of Plenty, Fifty Stars, Shillelagh & Widgee Turf can't be ruled out either. The exotics are sure to pay well even with the favoured horses getting into the finish. Here is the field & form for the great race

I don't do a lot of multi's anyway Wadda so the earlier double is not really much of a cost factor anyway ... and such is the case with last night's win, was happy to do the treble only and hope for the best. But my strategy with the horses is different as it's a real time event ... Harlem being scratched meant that we were only playing for the double anyway. As previously stated, there's some science to multi's that needs to be figured out. I used to get tempted by the big payouts but I now reckon there's other ways to win.

Not always Wadda but the earlier double does take away the temptation to cash out on the treble ... plus, if the earlier double stands out, why not? You can divide up your overall outlay accordingly. It's either that or you put all your eggs in the one basket and then hope for the best ... previously, I've cashed out and then reloaded - that's an option too unless the cash-out offer is unreasonable. I've also noticed that the cash-out offers of late are designed to end up letting the bet ride ... and the cynic in me sees that as a strategy from the bookies. The counter move is to do the early double and let the treble ride anyway. Appeals to my percentage punting way of thinking too.

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My answer is to go overnight in a multi or take an early double as part of a treble. For instance, at Meydan (Dubai) I had Cross Counter & Almond Eye in a double (both horses won so I won with combined odds of 5-1) but I also did a treble with both horses along with Rey De Oro in a later race ... Rey De Oro didn't win so I missed on the treble but I did get the earlier double - and I wasn't tempted to cash-out either because I'd already won on the double. Silly me ignored 'Old Persian' in the Rey De Oro race looking for better odds - another lesson learned! That's how I like to do multi's Wadda ... it's all about getting collects along the way in my book. I reckon there's some money to be made just doing doubles too. Again, we've gone 2 from 3 a number of times already on the MB thread. And we've often been sitting on 2 from 2 (early) a stack of times on the racing multi. Get the early double and then you're playing with house money is what I'm gleaning with the combined multi.

Waking up and winning is a great way to go Wadda ... I'm highly superstitious too so whatever works must be adhered to going forward. No messin' with a winning formula! I can't even watch the races a lot of the time (unless it is a big Group 1 race) ... the wireless is the go. Serves me well too as I got a few winners at Meydan & Sha Tin over the weekend as well. The combined collect of 20-1 is very good odds looked at in isolation ... 1 or 2 bankers coupled with 1 or 2 value picks seems ideal too. As always, you need some luck as well so it's not all scientific.

Yeah well done fellas ... decent collect too @ 20-1. Be nice to get on a roll now.

Here's the 3pick ... Bundesliga Monday 3.00am $1.95 Eintracht Frankfurt Win & +2.5 Goals Match Score vs VfB Stuttgart Serie A 12.00am Sunday night Roma v Napoli Napoli win & +2.5 goals match score $3.40 French Ligue 1 Monday at 02:00 Nantes v Lille ... Lille Win $2.50 With the help of an odds boost the combo can deliver 19-1 Good luck all!

Monday Special Bundesliga Monday 3.00am $1.95 Eintracht Frankfurt Win & +2.5 Goals Match Score vs VfB Stuttgart

Best Bet Strike Rate 110: 45 - 14 - 15 Australian Group & Listed Races