BAMF

Nope. I'm blaming Neeld. A VFL team would play better than we are. He has lost the players. Just look how far backwards Frawley, Garland and Jamar have gone. The players dont respect him. Thats why they are playing badly. Just look at Port. They were hopeless last year too but Ken Hinkley has turned them around. A good coach would get this team to work.

Oh god this is ugly. Neeld has to go. no one is playing for him tonight. Sad. I thought he was going to be the one.

Jack Watts - 2 kicks. So much for being the chosen kicker from the back half.

Cant wait till the trade/draft period comes around. Its the only time of year i actually enjoy football.

WTF? Clark is still out there? No preseason. 70points down. Bad injury. Why risk him? Seriously? This is dumb.

Clark injured. looks bad

Gillies? Seriously?

i wouldnt be offering Jack ANYTHING untill he starts to play some really good footy. other posters above me are offering him a 5 year contract based on 'a good preason'. That is pure insanity. Im not fussed if we wait till the end of the year. if he does have an amazing year then we are in a great position salary cap wise to give him a really good offer.

I agree with you, but your going a bit far. He is not a dud. Not yet anyway. A number 1 draft pick who was going to become our number 1 forward has become our number 5 backman. Very disapointing so far. We really need him to step up this year. Im sick of reading other posters harp on about Viney, Hogan and Tompus being the saviours of this club. They are first year players ffs. Every year we think it will be the latest draftees who will perform miricles. Watts, Trengove, Bail, Strauss, Blease, Grimes and Tapscott. These are the players who should be showing rapid improvement this year. We need these guys to step up and fill the void.

We got 'compensated'. Thats the only word I can think of. We turned that compensation into Hogan and Barry and Dawes. I'm extreamly happy with the results and am not negative about the outcome at all. Not sure how you dont think im positive. Most have got lost in translation. I'm the most positive person on this board.

No. He offloaded us. No two ways about it. We wanted him to stay and offered him a much better contract than he deserved.

I'll take your word for it as you clearly know more than me. Bit surprised that with the technology we have today that it would be that hard to produce what I mentioned. Surely you could hook the camera feed directly to a pc and then edit imediatly?

The thing that frustrates me is that this could have been up yesterday. One person filming. One person commentating. One editor watching on 5 min delay to make sure commentary is clean. And then upload straight to the web. This could have been uploaded with a max on an hour delay and we could have all watched in rather than listen to that rubbish on 5aa.

is the footage decent quality? any commentary?

Winners!

Come on demons

Hope we win this to shut these idiots down.

Sounds like port have won the melb cup when they kick a goal

Kent behind. Geez Kent sounds like he is doing well

Honestly, the commentary is much better than when we played Adelaide a few years ago.

I can't off the top of my head, but was overseas last year and didn't watch many non melbourne games towards the later half of the year. And im not going to bother trying to dig up information. I know that he use to handball a hell of a lot more under Bailey and that Neeld is forcing him to kick more and is working on his kicking, so I expect improvement in the future. And I would never chave called him aliability at anytime in his career. In truth he is our 2nd best mid behind Jones. Sad to say. This is exactually the same as when posters wouldn't include Bartram in their best 22. Even though both Bailey and Neeld would both choose him first. Posters will completley overlook all the good that he did and focus on the one negative. For me Jordie is a keeper. Im more arguing with Obilisk who states that he would prefer Kent (no games), Couch (Vfl), Evans(Vfl), Taggart(No games) , Magner (Vfl), Kent(No games) who he thinks will contribute more

Easily best 22 this year. He is 22 years old and 50 games under his belt. His best is yet to come. Posters who say we are playing with a man down in the midfield have no idea what they are talking about. Disposal by foot is not great and I get frustrated with the amount of pplayers who can't kick but Jordie is a keeper.

if mcdonalds employed someone who was terribly unclean and gave mcdonalds customers food poisoning they would be punished. same thing here. time to cop it. questions need to be made as to why carlton and richmond have not been charged though.

His arms do look bigger. But its his chest and back where his body on body strength comes from.

Has the camera man used a special setting on the camera? Looks almost fluro to me. Its a completley different colour to the one seen in the recent portraits photos. Look at the difference between the socks!