Demon Dynasty

Posted this in the Post Game thread in response to PF who suggested we won't make the 8 if we just roll into 2023 as is with very few changes. Probably better suited here... ...Absolutely agree although we might just scrape in to the finals with another ordinary result (eg; one win then out the next week, no PF appearance). Anything other than a PF this season should be viewed as a severe Fail mark for the club as a whole. We were just beaten by a visiting club in a semi (a level down from the PF) that hasn't won a game at the G since 2014 with a massive home crowd advantage, who had no genuine serious ruckman and their best KF AWOL. Anyone (Club Land Goody & the FD included) thinking we will just reset and pretty much go around again next season as we are, with just few tweaks to personnel and/or minor or no tweaks to game style, are kidding themselves. We failed to make a PF as predicted and at least three of the top four clubs have passed us in a convincing manor. This club needs to do a full review of game style, offensive methods and defensive methods as well as serious additions, especially at least one other tall key forward coming through either through the draft or trade and an attempt to pick up a very classy ball user deliverer through the middle or off HB. In addition the forward line plus inability of mids to connect with it has been a massive fail all season and are the two areas that need to come under the most scrutiny. Only my view and may not be available anyway, but i'd be going after Gary Ablett Jnr big time as the new forward line/mid field connect coach OR at the very least as an additional specialist forward craft/kicking coach. If we also roll into 2023 with same set up up here (forward coach) we will be doomed to another year of no PF and a back to back fail with further teams, like the Blues and potentially others like the Dogs and Freo, passing us by. There's a worrying 'she'll be right' complaceny creeping in and it needs to be hit on the head with a serious review then action required if we're to adjust, make approrpiate fixes/tweaks/list changes, before heading into the 2023 campaign. I hope Kate is seeing it this way also and not still basking in the 2021 glory with her rose coloured glasses on. Fingers crossed!

Absolutely agree although we might just scrape in to the finals with another ordinary result (eg; one win then out the next week, no PF appearance). Anything other than a PF this season should be viewed as a severe Fail mark for the club as a whole. We were just beaten by a visiting club in a semi (a level down from the PF) that hasn't won a game at the G since 2014 with a massive home crowd advantage, who had no genuine serious ruckman and their best KF AWOL. Anyone (Club Land Goody & the FD included) thinking we will just reset and pretty much go around again next season as we are, with just few tweaks to personnel and/or minor or no tweaks to game style, are kidding themselves. We failed to make a PF as predicted and at least three of the top four clubs have passed us in a convincing manor. This club needs to do a full review of game style, offensive methods and defensive methods as well as serious additions, especially at least one other tall key forward coming through either through the draft or trade and an attempt to pick up a very classy ball user deliverer through the middle or off HB. In addition the forward line plus inability of mids to connect with it has been a massive fail all season and are the two areas that need to come under the most scrutiny. Only my view and may not be available anyway, but i'd be going after Gary Ablett Jnr big time as the new forward line/mid field connect coach OR at the very least as an additional specialist forward craft/kicking coach. If we also roll into 2023 with same set up up here (forward coach) we will be doomed to another year of no PF and a back to back fail with further teams, like the Blues and potentially others like the Dogs and Freo, passing us by. There's a worrying 'she'll be right' complaceny creeping in and it needs to be hit on the head with a serious review then action required if we're to adjust, make approrpiate fixes/tweaks/list changes, before heading into the 2023 campaign. I hope Kate is seeing it this way also and not still basking in the 2021 glory with her rose coloured glasses on. Fingers crossed!

Solid post but the last bit might not be that easy either. Keep in mind the Hawks under Clarko won their first in 2008. Took them another 5 years to crack the next one.

Incredible that players, especially Leaders, are still running their mouths. Even after a diabolical finals series. Goodwin needs to get a hold of this cheap rubbish / nonsense talk and shut it down well before 2023 commences. Max is forgetting the very fabric of the culture that won us our first premiership in 57 years... "When all is said and done, more is said than done".

Fabulous post JCB. There were other issues as listed like the low pressure levels, especially inside 50, lack of decent delivery inside 50, very poor / slow transition off HB far too often, lack of a 2nd tall forward, smalls not working hard enough to get to the drop more often (front & square), default kicks to the pocket & bombing far too often etc etc etc. But you also have to look at our game style / methods which are or may have been surpassed by other team's styles as we speak such as the Pies & the Swans. That doesn't mean we throw the baby out with the bath water but we should at least go back to the drawing board, pick the whole system apart and re-assess every aspect of ball movement as well as offensive and defensive methods prior to the start of the pre-season.

The one positive (only in an insight sense) from last night's game was witnessing what Petty can bring up forward. So for 2023.... Weid to take Petty's place. Can also pinch hit in the ruck with Max resting down back to help out when he does. Petty goes forward as a permanent forward. Macca as the other tall forward. Start blooding JVR for Macca when Macca is being occasionally rested/managed throughout the season as needed. JVR also in when we occasionally need a third tall to stretch the oppo's defence etc. Sydney turned McCartin's career around by sending him back. Is it worth trying with the Weid Who also has rucking abilities up his sleeve? Three potential wins if we can pull this off in 2023... 👉🏼 We gain a strong marking 'MOBILE' tall forward with significant AFL / Finals experience without having to trade one in. And one who appears to be capable of kicking goals 👉🏼 Weid switches with Max in the ruck about 20% of time allowing Max to plug a hole down back. Max no longer needing to rest as a forward where he rarely marks/hits the scoreboard anyway and is often wasting space for a better alternative. Max often plays back now and intercepts quite well on occasions with pretty good outcomes. 👉🏼 No longer need to chase a back up ruck for Max assuming LJ is going. Use that pick on a classy ball user with some pace through the middle or off HB. Or alternatively go after another tall forward in case the Petty experiment fails and/or as a replacement for Macca when he retires.

So just putting this out there. Is it worth trying to blood the Weid as a backman to replace Petty. Is he capable? Has he played much down there at Casey and if so how has he gone peoples? I did see him play one very good match across HB vs Box Hill a few years back and he was impressive that day. But one day doesn't make a summer & it was only VFL. But let's just say we can do a McCartney with Weid... IF....could we then send Petty forward? Imagine a Petty and Macca forward line with JVR starting to pop in on occasions for brief cameos, or maybe more than a few cameos, in 2023. BB a back up to Petty, Macca & JVR if they go out due to injury and JVR is NQR for whatever reason in his debut season.

As there's no next week i doubt they'd risk him today Willmoy. Maybe in the GF if we get through but even then. I could be wrong though and he might wanna be part of it and be sticking his hands up.

Gus should never have been on Neale for more than a quarter or so. Sparrow and/or Harmes for mine. As ive harped on for weeks.... Gus shouldve been returned to his 2021 premiership winning position of Wing/HF after the first few games in the middle where it was clear (within about three weeks of the experiment) that it was a one trick pony and failing the team. Dunstan was a must in for Sparrow for mine as well. Been in ripping form at Casey of late. It was also clear by half time last night that Rivers was cooked. Goody refused to swing the medi sub axe and bring Smith on as he as done all season, at the detriment of the team and club. You need to bend and tweak every rule you can as a coach wherever possible. Goody needs to stop talking the RUTHLESS talk and start walking it himself. And not just in this example, needs to stop playing faourites and base more of his changes on blocks of form, rewarding those at Casey who deserve it and asking more from anyone in the 22 who needs the break to work on specific issues etc. Season 2022 will be remembered as a Massive Opportunity Lost for this club. Last night's result was nothing less than atrocious.

Too busy in the lead up looking after kids at training sessions?? The whole club reeked of complacency in the last few weeks. Maybe it's a whole of AFL thing now and im behind the times. Maybe a necessity and ok thing during odd training weeks in the H&A but finals you need to knuckle down with very few distractions. Viney is usually a finals gun.... for whatever reason his mind (body followed) wasn't fully on the job this series. His usual on field leadership was missing big time. Very dissapointing. Again too much talk from too many during the season. May's nonsense mid point of the season didn't help matters either. Took the whole club's eye off the main task at hand, even if it was briefly.

Whatever they were told/thought/ believed that's all fine but keep that under your hat and internalise it. It shouldn't be a regular public thing. And what was that wolf of wall street crappa. Complete BS. That's all fake bravado. Just get on with things and stick with the Reverend's "when all is said and done" mantra. Was the best message in 2021 AND it was mostly internalised and kept in house!

100% this.... too much running of mouths/arrogance this year and much of it from senior players including Max, Tracc & Lingers. Just walk the walk pls fellas and let your footy / on ground efforts & results do the talking like it did in 2021. As someone posted earlier we STILL haven't learned when it comes to dynasty & big club / culture. And all this talk about being ruthless. Yes we found that in 2021 but again, all talk this season with Goody refusing to pick pretty much anyone outside the usual 22 and refusing to change up a losing game style in the last 12 weeks that was clearly found out by the top 5 to 6 clubs. You can't be ruthless if you refuse to reward performance at Casey and ignore poor or sub-par performers (even those clearly out of form for weeks on end) at senior level!! P.S. Max never got back to anywhere near his 2021 form after coming back from his injury this season and looked to be cooked in these last two matches. Not helped by an insipid LJ either who sadly never looked like the LJ from 2021 bar a few patches in the odd game...then missing or flakey the rest of the time. Goal kicking cameos missing from him this year also! No good up forward, ordinary with taps and a 50/50 proposition at ground level with ball in hand. How many times did he get the ball and then [censored] his pants handballing to some poor bugger under immediate pressure (and / or turned back into pressure only to be caught anyway) instead of taking the first (kick) option? Along with BB dropping mark after mark. Are either of them using grippo!?? I can only assume LJ is off as he never looked truly committed all season. Weid was as good as LJ in his ruck cameos and at ground level in ruck contests. Unfortunately that's where it ended for Weid ...but ...we re-signed him for another season....seriously!?? There's some really ordinary stuff happening on the field but also off it this season. Going after Grundy is not the answer to our putrid forward woes either. A.massive mistake looming that would haunt us for years if we go ahead. The Pies wouldn't be looking to loose him unless they knew he was cooked (vs the old Grundy pre injury woes). Wakey wakey MFC ... We will be the duck if we fall for that trick (again...Daws!!). Speaking of mouthing off, who is that Johnny come lately numb nut on the big screen that keeps telling us we need to be louder. GAGS pal!! .I've been yelling my guts out & giving my all for this club for 50 years.... 30 of which were before you ever stepped foot on the G in your woosy gater designer S.A. shoes! Go take your fricken cheese board and shove it where the sun don't shine mate!

What a nightmare tonight was from so many aspects. Somebody shoot me. Tracc started up forward in the last quarter with small % of time in the middle bounces. Unfortunately with little to no effect. Possibly due to being hampered but he has a fair chunk of work ahead if he's to have a regular impact when playing there. Still tends to panic his kicks a little too often. Petty shouldve been trialled forward for a decent block of games, ideally against Norf & the Eagles as a minimum, way before finals. Team needs to be 99% settled weeks out. Throwing Petty forward AFTER the game looks to be lost in the last 5 mins of a semi-final smacks of too little too late and a lack of foresight/planning/vision. As great as 2021 was for the coach, players and the club... we really messed up a very good chance of at least making a PF this season. Big fail for mine.

LJ just kick that out son. Rivers ughhh.... He must have a saw calf.... SUB HIM OUT FOR SMITH!!

Really ordinary checking there from Rivers

Petty great on the tackle.. but took his eyes off the ball there and allowed Hipwood to run onto it easily

Lever's all good

Yup looks like it. Smith down back then?

Put Harmes on Zorko for the first 10 mins or so....appeared to be their main play maker that quarter. Is Gus still on Neale? Fritta needs to stay with Andrews on the transition. Giving him too much room IMV.

Lever walked off ok into the race yeh? He appeared to trip on a blade of grass coming in to stand the mark there and tweaked an ankle?

Just had the worst Malaysian ever and parking at Bridge Rd now. Hope i don't get food poisoning and get to see the boys pump some Lion [censored]

Nice choices...stay classy Uncle. On second thoughts just go nutz!

Blooody bewdy Kent... give em hell mate

So pretty much the same $$ (or less) spent on GMHBA by state Govts of late? Shouldn't be too much to ask then.

What about the Old Scotsch Football Club / Camberwell Sportsground in Camberwell?