Demon Dynasty

WAS AF. When was the last time he played at that level? Salary cap dump or no salary cap dump, you try and hang on to the best players on your list no matter what. See DeGoey. There's more to it than just the dump. I smell damaged goods! NO TRADE DEMONS...FCS DON'T DO IT!

Ah yes.. i was at Pie Park in that last match with bro and recall a two edged sword. We were happy as we defeated the Pies in the last round under Bobby Skilton, delivering them a rare wooden spoon. However, i also recall the filth supporters cheering and [censored]-a-hoop that someone beat someone (came up on the scoreboard or they might have had a few radios about) keeping us out of the final 5. Might have been Saints over the Roy Boys but too long ago for me now. Geez i hate that mob with a passion. Them & Hawk suporters originate from the same sewer pipe i reckon. Also never forget folks that many Swanny supporters are a poor man's filth equivalent. The garbage and trash that comes from their mouths is right up there with the other shonkey clubs of the AFL. There's nothing humble about many from this mob. Can't stand em.

A bit before my time Mono but i'll take your word for it!

Yes! I think nearing the end of his career as well? One season or the bulk of one season i believe

Well done TW. This is also evidence of what a whipping boy this club has been over many decades and that it isn't just a media thing it runs deep (or did so) within AFL halls. Imagine if it was Eddie, Colliwobbles and Malthouse on the receiving end! Remember that even after this, he was allowed to remain in the same position. Effectively a slap across the wrist. And did so for ANOTHER 4 YEARS until he left in 2016 on his own terms for a cushie Govt role. Even after departing he was allowed to remain on his own Indegenous Advisory Committee which he himself set up the year before. Was also annointed and given the tick of approval by Gil as he departed. They're all the same and all on the same massive gravy train. God forbid anyone gets in the road of that!... ..."the Commission and clubs wish him well in his new role," CEO Gillon McLachlan said. "I would like to personally acknowledge Jason’s leadership and the very positive impact he has had on our approach to indigenous and multicultural affairs." (Courtesy afl.com.au Nathan Schmook on Jan 28, 2016)

Assuming worst case. Pure speculation Mono Im not sure why so many followers are fixated that most players should almost always stick to the role they've been very good or better at for most of their or even the early phases of one in the case of Petty. That's a great example of what can happen when necessity calls and you suddenly find that someone can play a diff position and play possibly as good as they were or even better in the former. You just need to give it a chance sometimes. Hec, if it fails after a decent block of say 5 games, you just revert back to what that player was doing previously. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Darcy Moore a great example of that. Paddy McCartin another great example of one that worked. Gary Ablett Snr. Paul Salmon While not everyone is capable and it won't always work out (Moore) i'm sure there's plenty of other examples in VFL/AFL history where it has.

The issue / problem with our list and the reason we missed a PF opportunity doesn't lie with our defence aside from a classy running HB who is elite by foot IMO DJ. You can shuffle Weideman into Petty's role. Or even Turner once he finds his feet. We need solutions up forward and in the short term (unless we hit something phenomenal in the trade period) Petty is a must trial option for early next season IMV. The existing tall alternatives (aside from Macca but may not make it back) have been trialled and pretty much fallen flat. Run with roughly the same (KTF) set up next season and we'll get roughly the same result, or potentially worse, as more teams go past us in development and additions to their lists. JVR obviously adds something new but he's more a medium / tall vs a tall forward (at this point... might get there with time if he continues to sprout). If you remember prior to this season pretty much 99 out of 100 footy pundits and scribes had written McCartin's career off. Longmire had imagination and vision. He's now playing a key role in that team in defence and about to play off on the last day in Sept. No reason why we can't at least TRY/TRIAL same with Weideman. And it's a potential duel winner IF Petty works out to be a decent forward.

Yes that's just my take as the Weideman option avoids the need for an immediate back up ruckman aka Grundy. We will be better served investing the $$ and spot on the list elsewhere IMV. Still being in a premiership window we're in dire need of a DANGEROUS key tall forward over Grundy as well as some speed, run and class (finish / delivery inside 50) coming off HB and out of the middle. We presently have a big fat ZERO class finisher and mover in the mid field who can hit up targets on a regular basis in an elite sense and kick the odd goal or two on a semi-regular basis. The poor connection/delivery, lack of run/speed on the ball and lack of class through mid field/off HB has already cost us a PF and potentially a 2nd shot at silverware this season. We have to go all out and ALL IN as best we can to inject a fair amount of the above if we're to get back to a PF in the next year or two IMV and take advantage of the major assets still on the list.

Not according to the FD & Coach DM. Youth, Energy & SPEED on the ball and at ground level. Speed on transition lacking this season and other teams really benefited from this and our regular down the line default play. Whixh is why we'd be mad not to resign the likes of Bedford IMV, even for one or two seasons. The team we saw in the second half of 2022 was ploddy and also poor with execution under pressure. Way too many turnovers and part of that problem was....we got caught and we got caught alot. Players like Viney," Salem, JJ & ANB are great at clocking up possessions but offered us very little leg speed and were often caught HTB (= turnovers) on the attempted spread. Also noticed players drove out of congestion with their legs alot less vs 2021. I would be looking at the fitness / sports science team here. What happened to that aspect in one season? Why did it drop off so significantly with so many? LJ also dropped off a cliff with contested marking here for reasons obvious. I reckon SG is also hoping Grundy will bring us back to something resembling 2021 levels here with Grundy. He wouldn't be the first premiership coach to try and replicate a premiership year 'style of play' and there's no harm with this if other teams haven't progressed, worked out how to combat it and improved their own methods/style and lists. Problem with that is the top clubs rarely stand still and we've seen at least three clubs move alongside or past us this season. I just hope SG isn't living in 2021 fairy land and also sees it something like this and awakes from his 2022 2nd half slumber.

Dont know about being soft on Max but agree on the rest. We're barking up the wrong tree with Grundy and the Weid has shown that he's a worthy (minor ruck relief role) option. Grundy my moth chewed undies!! Could someone pls throw a bucket load of Gatoraid over Simon. Someone from the filth has obviously attempted to hypnotise him into taking taking the bait!

JVR will be in the mix next seaaon but you can't expect him to have a major impact all season, not consistently anyway. That probably won't happen (if its going to happen) for two to three pre-seasons afterwards. Unless of course he turns in to an absolute super star within his first season or two (unlikely). Macca is out for at least 6 months and will he even return at all or get back to anywhere near his 2021 form from there? Hope so but again can't be certain here. So IMO BB probably needs to go around once more. At least early in the season, and look to support him with JVR, possibly Macca if he gets back OR one of your options below. Turner will slot in beautifully at some point. However, assuming we don't get Grundy (Lucifer pls make sure of it!!) Max will need some back up but doesn't need to be more than about 20% of the time IMV. Turner isn't the answer here obviously as he won't be assisting in any ruck duties. No for various reasons including too valuable as a KF and/or in a HHF role. This is your man. As per McCartin this season, Weid is the ideal candidate to swing into Petty's role. Doesn't like too much contact in a contest? Can spoil from behind or just coming in from the side peeling off opponents for the assist etc. Can take a grab. Same height as Petty plus 2kg. Turning circle of the Titanic...again defence is the solution here. Can ruck and not just ruck. He can hold his own. And that's all Maxy / Mid Field needs for approx 20% of time. Maxy takes the Weid (ex Petty role) as a resting (intercept) backman which he has done on prior occasions with a fair amount of success mind you. Tomo is apparantly exploring alternatives and appears to have lost half a yard and any leaping ability he might have had prior to the knee injury last season. Can't offer any ruck relief option. Also can't see him offering ruck relief Very solid defender, even better as a medium forward IMV. Too short. Can't see him in the ruck. This is a possibility but would still like to see a relief ruck option here. If we want Petty forward in 2023 and i believe we should see this from here, then the Weid is your man. Yes most of my opinions are biased due to my "DO NOT GET GRUNDY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES" outlook. But there it is!

100% SN. This bloke is class personified with ball in hand which he'll get more of at AFL level IF he's given more chances to get more of it. Alsi probably the quickest guy on the list (see run down tackles/forward 50 and other areas, pressure at ground level). GIANT NOOOOOO GRUNDY GIANT YESSSSS TOBY ASAP (3 year deal!)

Sorry but this will be a disastrous trade for us if it goes ahead imv. Pies will be ecstatic though!

Other than a bit of poor disposal at times i thought he had a fair bit of upside. Similar traits to Disco. Hope he does too

The AFL/VFL circus commenced many moons ago IMV Layzie when it refused to rotate the Country Zones which they set up in early 1969 using a lottery system. Even though further 'rotation lotteries' every three years had been agreed to prior. All downhill and "fixed" in various ways to produce 'preferred' outcomes thereafter. The rorting has continued on its merry way ever since. The ability for the best players to somehow find their way to clubs that have played finals and/or won a premiership (or more) in the year/s prior to them coming across just another example of how the system is far from kosher.

Sorry replied to wrong post Layzie....was meant for this post lol. Agree re Chandler. Him and Bedford shouldve been in for Spargo or ANB on a few occasions i reckon. Yes everyone will scream 'role players' but sometimes you need to manage those role players and try and slot others in just to see what they can bring and also to give them a few decent blocks of games to find their mojo. Also handy 'ins' if one or both of the others end up injured (depth!) 1 hour ago, djr said: Did anyone follow Howes' performance today? Did he show anything to suggest that even though his stats were ordinary, he was able to apply some pressure to the opposition?

What a gruelling, gutsy hard fought win that was. Credit to all the boys who appeared to give it everything they had from the first bounce. Sharks are the real deal. Some real tough nutz and genuine footballers in the mix. Impressive switching and transition play in the first half. Really took the game on. A bit wayward at goal. Clarke, Woodcock & Kwaby stand outs in that first half. Kwaby in particular looked very dangerous at times but faded a little in the second half. So proud of the boys today. No doubt some sore bods after all that crash/bashing. Felt really sorry for Rosman missing this one. Stand outs for mine for Casey... Turner, Joel Smith (particularly the last quarter), Tomo, Dunstan, Melk, Munro, Bedford, Brown, Chandler (fantastic courage & second efforts all day) Baker, Woe & Laurie. Baker may have saved one of his best for last. He was very solid today in shizen conditions. Over ran the ball a few times but who didnt. Then straight back into it. His pressure / chasing without the ball was superb. Melk's goal from 50 & Mitch's goal in the teaming rain from about 40-45 near the boundary in the last quarter were crackers and sliced the Shark's fin for good. Mitch was also hitting packs hard as was JVR. JVR shows no mercy and i wouldn't want to be playing in front of him once he's put on an extra 5kg to 8kgs or so. His leap off a few steps is a tad Nic Natesqe. Melk's goal from the kick out of the scrum at HF also a highlight. His stint in the AFL appeared to result in him being in tip top shape for this hit out. He was running on top of the ground from the get go, albeit his opponent Kwaby was also finding a little too much time / space for my liking in that first quarter and a bit, offering plenty of rebounds for them. White a deserved Goss medalist. This bloke is everywhere at times and appears to have a huge tank. He's the epitome of the old school classic utility and a superb one at that. Reckon he would have fitted in beautifully into many good AFL teams in the 80s! He's at AFL level now IMV ... just not sure where you would play him though. Congrats to all the Casey boys on an amazing year. Great to see the Demon Army out in force behind the goals. Sat with them in the first quarter but the netting behind the goals was too much for this old timer to bare. Big thanks to KC, Werridee, NS and plenty of others on here for their coverage throughout the year 💪🏼✌🏼

Terrible conditions for a tallish running rookie player today. Wouldn't be placing much emphasis on how he's likely to go just on today.

Free was there from where im sitting. Slung around the neck and pulled off the ball

Nichols leading the umps is a worry

Oh ... minor matter! Anyway changed a plan and got here. Go Demons!

Rediculous start time. No way i can get there for a 12.50 start. What happened to traditional times around 2pm??

Reckon the Cats will romp it in. Arm chair ride all right. What a gift. Whereas the Swans had a pretty hard fought final and tthey've probably lost Reid, who played a pretty big role in their form line this season. Reminds me a bit of our win over the Blues in 88' and going in to the slaughter against the Hawks without Strawbs. Doubt it will be that sort of route but the Cats couldn't have had a better entre' to a GF and should win comfortably (5 to 8 goals at least).

There's still time Filth.... still plenty of snow. Mt Buller on the way back from the SCG

They got the four teams they wanted onto the Prelim and a home one for an interstater. Not fussed after that job done